Born Mucky

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
My wife was at Ag college with his sister, and he’s probably making more than the guy with a new combine and crops full of black grass . The farm is near Oswestry and @Tarw Coch will know them
No , sorry, don’t know them allthough they can’t be more than 3 miles away as the crow flies. I suspect I know his cousins........ at least I think they are who farm next door.
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
What did we think too this weeks episode? I felt it lacked actual substance and was pretty much 30 minutes of "oh we are so hard done by, we never make any money?"

Admittedly I feel sorry for the lads who's kit was pinched, when the swines had some of our kit we got the same outcome.

Was glad too see sheep being called a useful part of the system too! But I'm pretty sure there was a Texel ewe Hogg with a lamb on it blown up it's arse and back legs. And when you get too the sweepings up in June you can't expect best prices! More should have been said about splitting sheep carcasses and what a con it is I would have thought.

The lad with the pies is trying his best and seems to be going on, my only gripe was when he said about employing someone vs buying cows... He's got staff coming out of his ears by what we've seen on the tv? Don't winge about not having any money to pay people when there seem to be people everywhere! Unless they are all volunteers or students? In which case don't mention labour as you are onto a good screw there!!

6/10 this week.
 

Enfoff

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Mixed Farmer
Location
East
I don't think the series is too bad so far. The usual over dramatization but it is TV. I did feel for the guys that had their kit pinched.

I was interested to see the pie guys gluten free pies in the same kitchen as his other products. I have a friend who looked into this and they where told it not worth doing unless you have two facilities as the level of cleaning between making the two products is prohibitive. Even down to sucking out the air to catch airborne flour!
 

JSmith

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Livestock Farmer
What did we think too this weeks episode? I felt it lacked actual substance and was pretty much 30 minutes of "oh we are so hard done by, we never make any money?"

Admittedly I feel sorry for the lads who's kit was pinched, when the swines had some of our kit we got the same outcome.

Was glad too see sheep being called a useful part of the system too! But I'm pretty sure there was a Texel ewe Hogg with a lamb on it blown up it's arse and back legs. And when you get too the sweepings up in June you can't expect best prices! More should have been said about splitting sheep carcasses and what a con it is I would have thought.

The lad with the pies is trying his best and seems to be going on, my only gripe was when he said about employing someone vs buying cows... He's got staff coming out of his ears by what we've seen on the tv? Don't winge about not having any money to pay people when there seem to be people everywhere! Unless they are all volunteers or students? In which case don't mention labour as you are onto a good screw there!!

6/10 this week.
I’m glad you spotted that Hogg with grubs, mrs said I was imagining things! Good spot?
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Agree the flystrike.
Was there actually a lambing flock, or were we to infer that those were ewe hogs out of the 500 bought in stores, that had dropped lambs?
It was better this week I felt, but I wish they would lose the dramatic false jeopardy.
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
I don't think the series is too bad so far. The usual over dramatization but it is TV. I did feel for the guys that had their kit pinched.

I was interested to see the pie guys gluten free pies in the same kitchen as his other products. I have a friend who looked into this and they where told it not worth doing unless you have two facilities as the level of cleaning between making the two products is prohibitive. Even down to sucking out the air to catch airborne flour!
It certainly wouldn't be good enough for some celiac sufferers. I was very concerned with them not identifying the gluten free in the oven, it could hospitalise my mother if wrong.
 

Ukjay

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Location
Wales!
Can this be seen on any sort of “catch up” service?

Yes, there are options. I use Sky personally - you use the search option, then chose which program you want to watch from the list

For anyone that hadn't seen it, it is able to still be watched if you use search function and select the program ?
 
Location
East Mids
What did we think too this weeks episode? I felt it lacked actual substance and was pretty much 30 minutes of "oh we are so hard done by, we never make any money?"

Admittedly I feel sorry for the lads who's kit was pinched, when the swines had some of our kit we got the same outcome.

Was glad too see sheep being called a useful part of the system too! But I'm pretty sure there was a Texel ewe Hogg with a lamb on it blown up it's arse and back legs. And when you get too the sweepings up in June you can't expect best prices! More should have been said about splitting sheep carcasses and what a con it is I would have thought.

The lad with the pies is trying his best and seems to be going on, my only gripe was when he said about employing someone vs buying cows... He's got staff coming out of his ears by what we've seen on the tv? Don't winge about not having any money to pay people when there seem to be people everywhere! Unless they are all volunteers or students? In which case don't mention labour as you are onto a good screw there!!

6/10 this week.
Most of the public would see the shiny combine and not realise it's on overdraft or loan. Of that many farmers need overdrafts particularly for working capital due to the long production cycle and the ongoing expenses and lumpy (and unpredictable) income. So I think it's right to include all that.

The farm with all the pies and the 'rescue pigs' is run as a Community Interest Company so as well as paid and qualified/experienced employees they do probably have a lot of 'learner' staff - which I think is great as it is often the only way that non-farmers can get experience to then go onto further jobs or running their own small business. So many farmers will not offer experience and then complain they can't get skilled staff. It's not necessarily a 'good screw' - in a CIC people are often exchanging labour for a share of produce or profits, but importantly they get a chance to learn new skills. It takes time to train someone - which is why so many farmers can't be arsed.
 
Yes, one of the ewe hoggs looked like it needed investigating with a pair of handshears.

Programme was OK but it seemed a bit OTT trying to portray five lambs with scald as a major issue. The farmers came over well but I'm sure it would have been much more straightforward to take a few hurdles and the trailer to bring those sheep home!
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Agree the flystrike.
Was there actually a lambing flock, or were we to infer that those were ewe hogs out of the 500 bought in stores, that had dropped lambs?
It was better this week I felt, but I wish they would lose the dramatic false jeopardy.
I'm only a common sheep farmer but I reckon they were ewe lambs that were served by a Suffolk mule or a Suffolk x texel rig lamb. Looked that sort of thing, the one with horns was definitely that type of lamb. I went through all ours as we weaned and the stores as they came, pulled 17 tups and chasers out. Then the other day we were drawing fat and I spotted a bull headed one ?? two stones. God knows how many he's served.

The Mrs says I'm just sad that I can watch sheep on the tv and spot fly strike in the corner of the screen.
 

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