Bosis’ leaked food strategy document; worse than half-baked

[Tim W]

Since 1990 our population has multiplied by 146%
Our per head consumption of meat has multiplied 141%
Per head consumption of poultry has almost quadrupled !

The world has the same surface area but more people demanding more of everything

Something has to give

I predict

• less cereal fed meat ---in 50 years there won't be a recognisable poultry or pork industry
• More ''fermented/bio-produced '' food stuffs including synthetic steaks that will taste as good as or better than the real thing
• A reduced red meat industry which will be produced almost entirely on grass/forage within arable systems
• A large reduction in whinging farmers (or farmers of any type)

At the same time humans will fight for what is available (we've always done that)

I won't be around to see most of this & maybe that's a good thing
In the shorter term Boris probably wont be around long enough to implement a food policy either so i'm not too worried about any of his hare-brained ideas

 

[DaveGrohl]

Who will pick all the extra fruit and veg?

They’ll be granting temporary visas for anyone from Rwanda of course.

 

[DaveGrohl]

People like Dimbleby making such rediculous claims should really look at the facts...

Indeed.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

So they’re going to change the planning rules in order to release more land for fruit and veg production.
What are they suggesting, demolishing housing estates?

The whole thing appears to be complete nonesense, but what are the political alternatives?

If they want to help people, tell them the truth, instead of telling them what you want them to hear.

People want to build their cities on the best land available, want to have lawns instead of cultivating veges, then they will go hungry at some stage.
Can't always be farming at fault for decadence and lack of foresight.

 

[Courier]

Who?

im not wanting to get bogged down in the meat thing, but as a veg and potato producer I just don’t see where the extra demand for my produce is.

Surely there should be a differentiation between easily mechanised carb rich root veg and more delicate gut enhancing fibrous leafy veg

Never was anything wrong with a mixed, balanced diet though.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Who?

im not wanting to get bogged down in the meat thing, but as a veg and potato producer I just don’t see where the extra demand for my produce is.

You do realise that once they’re feeding everyone on gloop from the Frankenstein vat instead of meat then the next logical step is to do the same with fruit and veg? Your land is next for tree-planting, beavers, wolves, mega-"food" factories and security-fenced housing estates. Them wolves are gonna get hungry if there‘s no lambs to eat…..

 

[robs1]

The white paper isnt written by Government its written by civil servants.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Surely there should be a differentiation between easily mechanised carb rich root veg and more delicate gut enhancing fibrous leafy veg

Never was anything wrong with a mixed, balanced diet though.

It isn’t actually the carb rich root veg where the problem lies with human nutrition, it’s the wheat, sugar, seed oils and the processing of it all before it gets to humans. Tatties are proper food, it’s what messrs McD and McCain do to them that brings the problems.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I wonder what the package of support on fertilisers they have (yet to) announced amounts to?

Expect more subsidies to CF industries (NFU sponsor) for "the production of co2", supported by the non farmers union.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Without reading the article I can guess that it uses the words "affordable food" and "sustainable production"

Sounds good doesn't it?

Is the food affordable if the producer cannot afford to produce it?

Is production sustainable if the producer cannot sustain production at market prices?

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Who will pick all the extra fruit and veg?

They're going to suddenly magic up robots (that can do it as swiftly and accurately as humans) the report says somewhere.

 

[melted welly]

Minette Batters

Oh

 

[melted welly]

You do realise that once they’re feeding everyone on gloop from the Frankenstein vat instead of meat then the next logical step is to do the same with fruit and veg? Your land is next for tree-planting, beavers, wolves, mega-"food" factories and security-fenced housing estates. Them wolves are gonna get hungry if there‘s no lambs to eat…..

Oh I know, it would be a very easy sell to convince people away from produce grown in bacterial infested “dirt” towards sanitised vertical farms.

We’re all in it together.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I wonder if the retailers even think about farm profitability or are they so focussed on their own profits and the belief that they "can get it from somewhere else instead",

 

[roscoe erf]

Dimbleby:
“Careful livestock farming can be a boon to the environment, but our current appetite for meat is unsustainable: 85% of farmland is used to feed livestock. We need some of that land back.”

To grow what?

even more veg to be disced in coz no one wants it? More potatoes to be sent for stock feed? More berries to be left to rot coz there’s not enough pickers? I don’t understand what alternative FOOD sources he wants grown.

Unless of course it’s just a smokescreen to free up land for greenwashing……. But they wouldn’t do that would they?

bunch of c-units.

United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization says 26 percent of the earth’s terrestrial surface is used for livestock grazing.
full article here https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/is-the-livestock-industry-destroying-the-planet-11308007/
and

86% of livestock feed is inedible by humans. lies, damned lies and statistics​

 

[DaveGrohl]

Oh I know, it would be a very easy sell to convince people away from produce grown in bacterial infested “dirt” towards sanitised vertical farms.

We’re all in it together.

Thing is, "we" know that the "we" is actually the human race. The idiots don’t though.

 

[DaveGrohl]

I wonder if the retailers even think about farm profitability or are they so focussed on their own profits and the belief that they "can get it from somewhere else instead",

Is that a serious question?

 

[Universe]

And still no-one is pushing population reduction, just more quick fixes in order to "carry on as normal". Doomed

 

[Ffermer Bach]

The white paper isnt written by Government its written by civil servants.

in my opinion, we need a clear out of our civil servants, in the 80's the unions were the mill stone around the British economy, now in the 2020's the mill stone is the public sector and civil servants.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

It isn’t actually the carb rich root veg where the problem lies with human nutrition, it’s the wheat, sugar, seed oils and the processing of it all before it gets to humans. Tatties are proper food, it’s what messrs McD and McCain do to them that brings the problems.

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