Bout marker on Tractor Centre Line.

[DrWazzock]

Struggling a bit to get my eye in and keep the centre of the tractor on the bout mark. Looking down the bonnet I seem to get an inch wrong either way in matching up my beet rows. Usually we run the front wheel on the line but new drill with wider tractor track setting makes this difficult and it is easier to keep straight looking straight up the mark, but I tend to drift a bit. Stuck some tape in the centre of the windscreen and some on the bonnet to try to make a sight which helped a bit but is there an easier way? Drilling into straw doesn't make a particularly neat line either nor does blazing sun help.

I will try to make a better sight maybe? MF565 bonnet useless for centring as no marks and lots of round corners makes finding the centre of the bonnet difficult but not impossible.

 

[mushnt grummmble]

Either get gps or ask daisy broon 1594 for some tips

 

[DrWazzock]

Either get gps or ask daisy broon 1594 for some tips

Unfortunately I wasn't blessed with "the gift" or flat fields or a lot time to faff about.

 

[mushnt grummmble]

Can you shorten the marker arm so you run the wheel on the scribe

 

[DrWazzock]

Can you shorten the marker arm so you run the wheel on the scribe

With a bit of butchery, yes. But we have gone from 60" track to 72" so it's harder to see "up the line" now when running the wheel on it so if I can make centre line marking work then it will be easier to keep straight. Just struggling to keep the tractor on the line. As I see it I need a sight on the bonnet/windscreen in line with the centre of the tractor. Trouble is if it's just a degree off then the tractor can be 4" off the line.

 

[mushnt grummmble]

With a bit of butchery, yes. But we have gone from 60" track to 72" so it's harder to see "up the line" now when running the wheel on it so if I can make centre line marking work then it will be easier to keep straight. Just struggling to keep the tractor on the line. As I see it I need a sight on the bonnet/windscreen in line with the centre of the tractor. Trouble is if it's just a degree off then the tractor can be 4" off the line.

Only way then is 2 verticle center markers on the tractor in front of you,as far apart as possible

 

[DrWazzock]

Only way then is 2 verticle center markers on the tractor in front of you,as far apart as possible

Centre of windscreen and as far forward on the bonnet as possible then. Thought about joining the two points with a straight rod or tube so it's like looking down a gun barrel at the sight. Keep that on the line and it shouldn't go wrong.

 

[KennyO]

You may need to set the after arms at different lengths. We always had the set a odd lengths when setting up spud ridges. Always adjusted to suit the driver.

 

[DrWazzock]

You may need to set the after arms at different lengths. We always had the set a odd lengths when setting up spud ridges. Always adjusted to suit the driver.

I can believe that. After much adjusting I ended up with one marker an inch longer than the other to get correct match up both ways. But that defied reason.

Apparently we have a dominant eye as far as sighting is concerned. If you close one eye and the marks move then that is the non dominant eye.

 

[Sharpy]

Chap near here put a line of insulation tape down the centre of his bonnet for this reason. John Deere 2650 so smooth bonnet although there was a centre marker.

 

[Flat 10]

I have vertical fibre glass cane sticking up from the centre of the front grill. Helps a lot. Can’t see the need for anything on the windscreen

 

[Rs chunk]

Centre of tractor marker is easier than the wheel to follow. As flat 10 said get a cane up front. There’s a few tractors out there that don’t have the seat in the middle

 

[TripleSix]

I've a load of Trimble hardware to sell to make a T7 autosteer....

 

[milkloss]

I can believe that. After much adjusting I ended up with one marker an inch longer than the other to get correct match up both ways. But that defied reason.

Apparently we have a dominant eye as far as sighting is concerned. If you close one eye and the marks move then that is the non dominant eye.

You do indeed have eye dominance most likely. With two canes this would be negated completely though.

Think about firing a laser from your right eye to one cane on the nose of the tractor and past into the distance. Now imagine it with your left eye without moving your head and that spot in the distance will move as the laser pivots on the cane.

Shooters have this problem very often and you can half wink the annoying eye to take it out of the sighting equation.

 

[Grouse]

If you have eye dominance you need two sights - or drive round with one eye closed.

You need a cane up front and a mark on centre of windscreen. These both need to line up with the mark on the field. Like sighting a rifle on a rabbit. Otherwise you will be wandering all over the place.

 

[TripleSix]

What tractor is it?

Is the seat in the middle of the cab?

 

[milkloss]

@DrWazzock drilling today:
I’m doing alright boys, happy days!
Concentrating, concentrating.....nearly there!
Heh, heh, I know what they did with that horse, straight line! Straight line!
Yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaah!
Left eye......right eye.................ughhh......oh, feck it!
Dust, oh the dust, it got me, I can’t see! Now I got no eyes.
Footpath walker
Dog walker
Smacking my self in the eye worked if a little extreme.
Need water, drying out, must finish this bout first
Perfecto!
TELEWAG POLE INCOMING!!!!

 

[Grouse]

Cider again

 

[76masseyman]

@DrWazzock
Had the same issue on a 590 years ago, when going from 60 to 72" centres.
We put a 72" wide bar across the front of the tractor, but mounted on arms about 2 foot out in front.
Hung from either end was a length of bar that could only swing forward and back, not sideways.
The hanging bits were above the scratch marks, and could be seen better being well forward.

Could you have been just up the road from where the bikers meet on a Wednesday evening ? Was on that road yesterday and saw a 500 series on a beet drill.

 

[Boomerang]

Struggling a bit to get my eye in and keep the centre of the tractor on the bout mark. Looking down the bonnet I seem to get an inch wrong either way in matching up my beet rows. Usually we run the front wheel on the line but new drill with wider tractor track setting makes this difficult and it is easier to keep straight looking straight up the mark, but I tend to drift a bit. Stuck some tape in the centre of the windscreen and some on the bonnet to try to make a sight which helped a bit but is there an easier way? Drilling into straw doesn't make a particularly neat line either nor does blazing sun help.

I will try to make a better sight maybe? MF565 bonnet useless for centring as no marks and lots of round corners makes finding the centre of the bonnet difficult but not impossible.

How you sit in your seat has a bearing on where you are running relative to the Bout marker line , if you are not square in the seat and are exactly in the same place all the time you can drift off .
Can't remember where I've seen it but you can buy a device which fits to your screen with appropriate lines on it to keep straight .
I have a piece of tape on centre of bonnet , did have one on windscreen also but it's fallen off not bothered to replace it and had no problems.
Cane on front in centre of bonnet plus tape on screen worth a try .