- Location
- Near Colchester
I quite agree especially with various bills due because things like fertiliser and animal feed just have to be bought when they have to be bought.
BPS 2018
- Thread starter Adeptandy
- Start date
- Location
- Northumberlandia
oh yeah dont i know it.... currently had to lay me cards on the table with key inputs supplier & thankfully there understanding.
not all are tho... esp anything on a DD
- Location
- East yorks
Ours did that 4 or 5 times last year
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
"Prepare for 2019."
" ! BPS 2019 will run as normal on the same basis as 2018."
Fortunately, being a farmer, one's resistance to major disappointment is still fairly high.
So they mean BPS 2019 will be a farce/chaos then? I could have told them that!
I'm told 'We' asked for the progress of a claim to be available on the website, and the RPA delivered that!
BUT they openly admit the status of a claim is almost totally pointless as it can revert back for numerous reasons (none of which are available to anyone in the call center or anyone you can speak to).
So while they have appeased those who were demanding info, it is actually worse than before because now you are told a particular status, then the next day it can revert right back to initial stages of the claim... RPA also tell us this can happen but give you absolutely NO access to find out why (just use the well within payment window line).... So the info shown is actually making things worse!
Oh an I was also told on the phone, no money being invested into the system now as there is no guarantee beyond 2020. Basically millions of pounds wasted!!!!!
BUT they openly admit the status of a claim is almost totally pointless as it can revert back for numerous reasons (none of which are available to anyone in the call center or anyone you can speak to).
So while they have appeased those who were demanding info, it is actually worse than before because now you are told a particular status, then the next day it can revert right back to initial stages of the claim... RPA also tell us this can happen but give you absolutely NO access to find out why (just use the well within payment window line).... So the info shown is actually making things worse!
Oh an I was also told on the phone, no money being invested into the system now as there is no guarantee beyond 2020. Basically millions of pounds wasted!!!!!
- Location
- Northumberlandia
Nowt here yet & i was told via email payment would be issued today...
does that mean it takes 48hrs to arrive after today or what ??
My online status is still on Preparing for Payment tho
does that mean it takes 48hrs to arrive after today or what ??
My online status is still on Preparing for Payment tho
Hesston4860s
Member
- Location
- Nr Lincoln
Spoke to the chap dealing with my appeal, and he’s going to sort it out in January as to where and when it’s going to be !.
I also told him that I’ve submitted the forms and copies of all RPA’s letters to the parliamentary ombudsman, and I’m waiting to here back from them !.
I also told him that I’ve submitted the forms and copies of all RPA’s letters to the parliamentary ombudsman, and I’m waiting to here back from them !.
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Just to point out the call center can ONLY tell you same as website, they might say "Preparing for Payment"...... This means NOTHING
The multi million pound computer system can still throw the claim to the back of the queue with an error and revert your claim back to manually re-processing it.
The staff you can speak to have NO access to be able to tell you why this might be. So don't bank on anyone there emailing or saying your claim is being "prepared for payment"
The multi million pound computer system can still throw the claim to the back of the queue with an error and revert your claim back to manually re-processing it.
The staff you can speak to have NO access to be able to tell you why this might be. So don't bank on anyone there emailing or saying your claim is being "prepared for payment"
- Location
- Northumberlandia
None of them care its only some money & your just a number to them...
Thats how i had a politician type answer to the email they took 11 days to answer....
Don't forget we are only 17 days into the payment window so yes agree they don't care yet, answering the phone is literally lip service just to keep some happy.
Just highlights yet again how bad the multi million pound computer system for managing the claims is! 17 days is an eternity in terms of computer processing.... Obviously the well paid RPA leaders just fall for all the computer waffle, keeps them feeling important, they need it to sound complicated to help justify themselves upwards....
Especially when post Brexit they are bound to need to invest a load more money in the computer system to do whatever the RPA sweep up (if we ever leave that is)
Beggers Belief!
Just highlights yet again how bad the multi million pound computer system for managing the claims is! 17 days is an eternity in terms of computer processing.... Obviously the well paid RPA leaders just fall for all the computer waffle, keeps them feeling important, they need it to sound complicated to help justify themselves upwards....
Especially when post Brexit they are bound to need to invest a load more money in the computer system to do whatever the RPA sweep up (if we ever leave that is)
Beggers Belief!
fieldfarmer
Member
17 days in but the " We an't going to pay you in December " emails have already started!
- Location
- Northumberlandia
Not good that....
- Location
- South Oxfordshire
Really pleased my son has just been paid his first ever claim as a new young farmer. His claim kept going from final checking back to validating, so I thought the worse. Thanks Rural Payments, and hope everyone else gets theirs sorted as soon as possible.
wasted years
Member
- Location
- Cumbrian born and bread
I couldn't resist looking this afternoon.....
Wish I hadn't, but I did pay some bills and make a large overdraft even bigger.
Wish I hadn't, but I did pay some bills and make a large overdraft even bigger.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
Rejoice Its in..... 
- Location
- Lancashire
I have had a email today saying they are going to pay the 3 years common shortfall shortly.Similar perspective from here, Old Tip.
Additionally, we're all still owed the 3 years BPS commons shortfall which the NFU has recently gone very quiet on.
edit:- just opened today's post containing my long-awaited envelope from the RPA.
Hilariously, it's not the 2018 payment advice keenly expected here, nor even the 2015-17 shortfall, but just their latest circular :-
"Prepare for 2019."
" ! BPS 2019 will run as normal on the same basis as 2018."
Fortunately, being a farmer, one's resistance to major disappointment is still fairly high.
Same here.
Win some, lose some.
There is a mathematical possibility that one or two lucky claimants now caught up in the commons trap may still be better off come New Year's Eve, but it's vanishingly small.
In our case we're about 7-1 down.
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- Location
- Cirencester
E-mail today saying they wont be paying me by end of Dec and if they have not paid by end of March then bridging loan available, what a cock up!!
The NFU should take the RPA to task over the whole website status thing, as the RPA agreed to publish the status of the claim, so that the claimant
"can track the progress of the claim online"
If this status can move backwards and forwards it is totally useless and more importantly is misleading, giving the impression you are about to be paid then reverting back to stage one!
How they get away with this type of farce is beyond me!
"can track the progress of the claim online"
If this status can move backwards and forwards it is totally useless and more importantly is misleading, giving the impression you are about to be paid then reverting back to stage one!
How they get away with this type of farce is beyond me!
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