BPS 2018

[Einstien]

We’ve always called for prompt payments or giving those unpaid some clarity of when they are likely to be paid so they can plan accordingly. The traffic light system is a response to that but I agree for many it proves rather flawed and just increases frustration. Next time weeet with the RPA I will make this point.

It's not a traffic light system though as the lights can go red yellow red yellow red yellow and it's pot luck if you get a green!!

In fact - "preparing for payment" status that can be shown for weeks but then revert back to claim validation is massively missleading and dangerous for anyone assuming it is what it says it is!

How on earth has this ever been agreed as acceptable?

 

[Lazy Sod]

I'm now retired, last claim was in 2017. I only had 1 inspection back in the mid nineties, combinable crops only.

The man turned up on a very rainy July day and walked round the outer tramline wheel mark of the cereal crops with a wheel. I don't think that he could have tried doing the OSR! He docked us a fraction of a hectare. If he'd walked round 10 times, he, have got a different result each time.

In recent years I have been paid in December, but when the RPA were even more useless I was paid when most farmers received their money.

Of course, I had the usual mapping niggles when they made mistakes, but the only real problem that I had was in 2015 when greening/EFAs first came in. They docked me £1031 for not having any. As I was nearly all grass by then, I didn't need any. The eventually agreed that they had made a mistake and coughed up.

Overall. I think that I got away lightly compared with many farmers, although not having any livestock probably helped.

 

[Old Tip]

Got mine just into the new year, still waiting for the HLS which should have come in October so still not best friends with the bank manager

 

[livestock 1]

Got mine just into the new year, still waiting for the HLS which should have come in October so still not best friends with the bank manager

If you are freinds with the bank manager you aren’t trying hard enough
Mine hasn’t turned up lol

 

[wasted years]

If you are freinds with the bank manager you aren’t trying hard enough
Mine hasn’t turned up lol

Mine hasn't either, just been online, really need it this year as well but hey ho, i will likely arrive and the good thing is if the next one arrives on time it will seem like 2 birthdays in a year.

 

[livestock 1]

Mine hasn't either, just been online, really need it this year as well but hey ho, i will likely arrive and the good thing is if the next one arrives on time it will seem like 2 birthdays in a year.

Good job we can spread it out for tax purposes otherwise tax man would think it was his birthday too

 

[ffukedfarmer]

Now on final checking. Hopefully it will soon progress to preparing for payment and not go backwards!

 

[theboytheboy]

We had a inspection to check our fallow was actually fallow (it was) and a remote sensing inspection.

The remote sensing inspection produced an email with an attached spreadsheet that referred to an annexe. (There was no annexe and months later I was told the whole paragraph of the email should not have been included as this annexe was removed years ago)

The errors the remote sensing inspection found were pifs that had been removed by the rpa and that I had then spent ages doing rle1 forms to get added back on.
As well as verges made into fields, filers split into 20 separate parcels etc

I still have no "hedge layer" so cant use hedges for EFA. Nobody can answer why this is and I'm told they have not heard of anyone else with this problem.

We had the email just before Xmas saying we won't be paid untill later in spring (I think a number of you had this)

The next day the money was in the bank........

There is no sense trying to apply and logic to any of it!

Thankfully we are highly diversified now and although annoying it does not out us at risk of going under.

 

[radar]

Just had email from RPA saying log on check your messages! Apparantly still altering boundaries and finding hedges where there aren't any. All incorrect (bang head)!!

 

[Hindsight]

Just had email from RPA saying log on check your messages! Apparantly still altering boundaries and finding hedges where there aren't any. All incorrect (bang head)!!

There you go - remote sensing and land use software - updates automatically. Can't wait for driverless cars.

 

[radar]

Just had email from RPA saying log on check your messages! Apparantly still altering boundaries and finding hedges where there aren't any. All incorrect (bang head)!!

Just had another heads-up from RPA about changes to another field. Footpath across field with tarmaced surface, always been classed as ineligible fearure, has now been classified as arable area! RLE 1 time again!!

 

[livestock 1]

Just had another heads-up from RPA about changes to another field. Footpath across field with tarmaced surface, always been classed as ineligible fearure, has now been classified as arable area! RLE 1 time again!!

Mine is also a mapping discrepancy on moorland. The grazable area has changed. Apparently. Not sure how.

 

[radar]

Just had another heads-up from RPA about changes to another field. Footpath across field with tarmaced surface, always been classed as ineligible fearure, has now been classified as arable area! RLE 1 time again!!

Thought I'd just try and sort this as it's a quiet day, but lo and behold "site not available". GRRrr

 

[Hindsight]

Just had another heads-up from RPA about changes to another field. Footpath across field with tarmaced surface, always been classed as ineligible fearure, has now been classified as arable area! RLE 1 time again!!

Do you really need to submit an RLE1 to amend this change to the eligible land stated for that particular land parcel?

My approach would be to just declare the area as a non eligible code and thus only activate the appropriate area of the parcel. This would all be correct. Would save you and the RPA the time, effort and cost of processing yet another RLE1 form. In event of a physical field inspection all would be correct.

By all means do submit an RLE1 but just sayin' to coin that phrase. Hey ho. I assume as folk get into BPS season this will be a common occurrence and lead to several mapping related posts on here.

 

[radar]

Do you really need to submit an RLE1 to amend this change to the eligible land stated for that particular land parcel?

My approach would be to just declare the area as a non eligible code and thus only activate the appropriate area of the parcel. This would all be correct. Would save you and the RPA the time, effort and cost of processing yet another RLE1 form. In event of a physical field inspection all would be correct.

By all means do submit an RLE1 but just sayin' to coin that phrase. Hey ho. I assume as folk get into BPS season this will be a common occurrence and lead to several mapping related posts on here.

Might well do as you say, but how does an illegible feature suddenly become arable land after god know how many years beats me.

 

[Hindsight]

Might well do as you say, but how does an illegible feature suddenly become arable land after god know how many years beats me.

It is the land recognition software. Incorrectly recognises some land uses. Just one of those things. Do not worry about it. As I said in previous posts just amuses me when I am told how reliable all this modern sensing technology and the software associated with it. I await driver less vehicles being let loose!

I have had a case where an area of fallow (so an eligible arable land) was reclassified as Permanent Pasture - which is actually how this piece of fallow looks visually if seen on the ground - ungrazed Permanent Pasture. But I had used this fallow as EFA. This have had 2017, 16, 15 BPS payments reduced. Have sorted it out now but just a faff could do without. Hey ho.

 

[Wombat]

Might well do as you say, but how does an illegible feature suddenly become arable land after god know how many years beats me.

We had an intelligible parcel suddenly become eligible a few weeks ago. That was after they deleted all but two of my PiF 2 yrs ago . I cannot be arsed to do an RLE1 as they will just screw something else up anyway and will just not claim for it.