Bps and corn prices

Mr Tree

Member
Location
Sth Yorkshire
A machinery and labour joint venture, making ‘regen’ no till work (going ok so far), reduce reliance on bought in inputs, sell ISO assured carbon certificates, make use of ELMS when it comes out as we are already doing many of the things on the SFI pilot.
I think current high price may cause some to take their foot off the gas in relation to bps soon going.
Good answer
Can’t believe the industry will change so drastically again

what is working in your pilot scheme ?
 

teslacoils

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
They will have to if nothing replaces bps.
I’m sure you know your figures but there’s nothing at the job at all if you factor reinvestment.
You can’t use the same machinery for ever.

If other factors remain the same, then yes. But they won't. I'd say last two years, and potentially this year, will be the best since 2011.

Agree that machinery replacement costs have got a touch silly.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Good answer
Can’t believe the industry will change so drastically again

what is working in your pilot scheme ?
Sorry wasn’t clear. I’m not on the pilot scheme but have the option to apply, many of the things on there we are already doing but there is some quite stringent things on the proposal so currently weighing up options
 

Mr Tree

Member
Location
Sth Yorkshire
Indeed. Not saying that it was a good year for all.

But for every traditional tenant who can't make it pay, there will be a veg grower / ad plant / dairy along to hoover it up if they left.

I do agree and disagree.
I’m on grade 3 opencast not veg land, dairy boys I don’t think will hoover up all the thousands of acres around me!
Ad plant ? Really ? Surely they are at the limit soon
 

teslacoils

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I do agree and disagree.
I’m on grade 3 opencast not veg land, dairy boys I don’t think will hoover up all the thousands of acres around me!
Ad plant ? Really ? Surely they are at the limit soon


More ad is inevitable.

Anyway, we will see what elms brings.
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
Morning,

It’s a constant thought and concern for me and must be for most others.

We all start to lose SFP this year which will have a massive impact on a tenanted arable unit such as ours.

yes we are diversified business but to unsustainably ‘prop’ a failing business model of arable production surely is not the way.

Stewardship will have to be brought in swiftly but where will myself and surely everyone else find the shortfalls?


Arable farming with all the investments in fert,chem and machinery certainly doesn’t make it profitable for re investment even with SFP!

Will corn prices reflect our losses? My opinion in no!
Will my landlord ‘give’ me the land to farm?

So what options are people thinking to create sustainability on the land they farm?
It’s not going to be easy…..
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
One of my landlords is worried I will quit and then who he will get to farm his land. In this area its all big estates. The contractors dont have the knowledge to manage these schemes and the landlord has enough on his plate. The land agents I talk to all use mid tier as somthing to base the current rent on. Not helpful to the tenant.
In this instance then you should be able to negotiate a rent reduction…. 👍
 

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