BPS reduction chart

[l'ordinary bonville]

Most of us farm in a way to keep receiving BPS and are cautious not to end up with penalties.

What happens when BPS is either gone or simply doesn't add up to much? Will we start to see a few hedgerows disappear in order to run more efficiently?

Will we stop worrying about livestock numbers, cross compliance, records, etc?

Lets face it the current way to get us to conform is with a threat to take away our money. Once that threat is gone will they ever get round to actually policing anything?

Is it actually illegal to farm up to the ditch or hedge? Or rip it out? Or not have complete records and tags in ears? Etc etc.

 

[Steevo]

Most of us farm in a way to keep receiving BPS and are cautious not to end up with penalties.

What happens when BPS is either gone or simply doesn't add up to much? Will we start to see a few hedgerows disappear in order to run more efficiently?

Will we stop worrying about livestock numbers, cross compliance, records, etc?

Lets face it the current way to get us to conform is with a threat to take away our money. Once that threat is gone will they ever get round to actually policing anything?

Is it actually illegal to farm up to the ditch or hedge? Or rip it out? Or not have complete records and tags in ears? Etc etc.

It's also a lot more difficult and costly to go through the hoops required to take a farmer to court over each issue and would take an enormous amount more time.

Taking your list - it is illegal to remove a hedge....but it's a lot more work and hassle going to court than just implementing a 5% penalty.

 

[B'o'B]

The Agriculture Act and Environment Bill will give them more power to prosecute. Just think of all those people administering BPS needing re-employment suddenly available to prosecute farmers.
I won’t be getting too excited about a free for all to do as we please for some time yet.

 

[farmerm]

It's also a lot more difficult and costly to go through the hoops required to take a farmer to court over each issue and would take an enormous amount more time.

Taking your list - it is illegal to remove a hedge....but it's a lot more work and hassle going to court than just implementing a 5% penalty.

When employed solely for the purpose of putting forward such prosecutions it is not work and hassle, its just ones job....

 

[andybk]

just been looking through my claim (non sda) and i see we have lost 9ha over the years due to being woods/ scrub / hedges, rivers etc wonder if we will get some of that back if they are looking to pay for nature etc,? all our claims at the moment are on actual cropable land .

 

[4course]

just been looking through my claim (non sda) and i see we have lost 9ha over the years due to being woods/ scrub / hedges, rivers etc wonder if we will get some of that back if they are looking to pay for nature etc,? all our claims at the moment are on actual cropable land .

doubt it

 

[Phil H]

When employed solely for the purpose of putting forward such prosecutions it is not work and hassle, its just ones job....

Until you ask your public sector bosses to fund your barristers on £500/hr because you didn't negotiate a settlement.

 

[Steevo]

When employed solely for the purpose of putting forward such prosecutions it is not work and hassle, its just ones job....

Unfortunatey there are quite a few people employed on this basis within many of the unaccountable organisations discussed in the thread I started.

Often they do not even need to provide any evidence to support their position either.

 

[farmerm]

Until you ask your public sector bosses to fund your barristers on £500/hr because you didn't negotiate a settlement.

That public sector boss knowns such barrister cost lands with the farmer when he looses in court... he can only afford the employ the junior barristers on £300/hr and the case against the farmer is not gong to be taken to court unless they are confident in the outcome... they only need to make a few financially crippling examples from those resisting to agree to pay up fines before the rest quickly shuffle into line.

 

[Farma Parma]

did anyone look at the AHDB Direct Payments Calculator say 12months ago & print out the results of what there BPS will look like in future years ??
when putting the same info in today & website has changed somewhat but you get there in the end, the deductions are much bigger now even for this year??
whats changed ??? anyone got any ideas ???