Breeding ewe sales-outlook

[Jerry]

I hope the shearlings your interested in are in pens 1119,1120,1121, wont be down there sadly but dad will be, along with Suffolk 6 tooths and cheviot 6 tooths pens 1025 onwards and 258 onwards. Poor old boy getting old but knows his stock far better than me and loves a chat so please say hello. Think if you say a friend from internet forum he will clock on hopefully!! Good luck with tups and spend money wisely on pens 1119,1120 and 1121

Good luck with those, but I'm more interested in some Lleyns. I'll try and say hello though.

 

[yellowbelly]

Good luck with those, but I'm more interested in some Lleyns. I'll try and say hello though.

We're all expecting a "Gone Up The Hill" type sale report when you get back tonight

 

[Jerry]

We're all expecting a "Gone Up The Hill" type sale report when you get back tonight

That's easy.

Prices were flying
It's all too expensive
Some farmers are daft
I blame Guy Smith/NFU In general

 

[It was already broken.]

'Some farmers are daft' could be engraved on a lot of gravestones.

 

[Jerry]

It's getting pretty full. On top of this all the Suffolk ewes are out in the cattle lines along with the rams.

About 8,000 sheep in.

 

[GTB]

The same is the case for beef if they allow a lot of sub standard American/South American beef into the UK.

No real point worrying about life after brexit until we have known facts.

Not sure that American or South American beef is sub standard? From what I've seen on YouTube etc they seem pretty healthy to me. Maybe they don't have the same paper trail as ours but there's not much wrong with the beef I'm afraid to say.

 

[Jerry]

Good luck with those, but I'm more interested in some Lleyns. I'll try and say hello though.

Is this your dad? First two lots of 6T made £136 and £137

 

[Jerry]

Older Suffolk mules have averaged about £110 over 25 lots. Highs at £137 for @Lovegoodstock lows at £75.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

lows at £75.

Ouch.
Better killed in May I guess?

 

[Jerry]

Ouch.
Better killed in May I guess?

Yep. Not clever looking. everything else was £100 plus so a bit of a odd lot

 

[Jerry]

Champion pen of Suffolk mule shearlings just made £165

 

[Ysgythan]

It's a funny thing but in my experience dear lambs usually means cheap tups and the year lambs are cheap tups are dear,I have never been able to figure out the reason for this

I think it goes like this:

Cull ewe trade is good - incentive to cull hard
Lamb trade good - incentive to keep more ewes - need to buy some
Top end lamb trade good - premium for shape and weight - farmers buy better sheep
Money used to buy sheep leaves less left to buy tups. Make do with what you have or buy a cheap one. Tup trade poor.

Cull ewe trade poor - incentive to keep ewes
Lamb trade poor - don't need as many ewes
Top end lamb trade not showing much premium - farmers don't buy, or buy cheap ewes.
With poorer and older ewes need a better tup. Tup trade good.

 

[Jerry]

Suffolk mule shearlings av about £130

 

[muleman]

Is this your dad? First two lots of 6T made £136 and £137View attachment 551634

Thats Mr PL Morris,great farmer and a great fella!

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Older Suffolk mules have averaged about £110 over 25 lots. Highs at £137 for @Lovegoodstock lows at £75.

Yes that's him next to Russell,thanks @Jerry. Was worth loading in the dark this morning, and running around the field after one got out into field as I spooked them walking up the yard in the dark!! Did your tups sell well? Well pleased with trade of older ewes. Gather yfc were a big help, that will build the kids up as they are some strong ewes, I think anyway!!

 

[Jerry]

YFC always on hand for big sale days and they help a lot. Moving couple thousand ewes into one ring without hold-ups is pretty full on back stage. It was bang bang bang as they came through.

No idea how Russell's voice held up given he sold 2000 lambs plus another 1000 or so culls yesterday. Bet he's hoarse tomorrow.

Ram trade was mixed. Lots went home.

 

[crazy_bull]

What are people expecting to pay for running mule ewe lambs, not nessesarily to lamb first season. Just wondering about buying those instead of shearlings.

C B

 

[gone up the hill]

Not sure that American or South American beef is sub standard? From what I've seen on YouTube etc they seem pretty healthy to me. Maybe they don't have the same paper trail as ours but there's not much wrong with the beef I'm afraid to say.

Have a good look at the pics of the feedlots, cattle covered upto their stomach in mud for two/three weeks at the wettest times of year, no way we would be allowed ( quite rightly ) to keep cattle like that!

 

[gone up the hill]

Exeter Breeding sale on Tues :

Over 8000 Ewes averaged about £123 head + just over £5 head on the year.

 

[Lovegoodstock]

What are people expecting to pay for running mule ewe lambs, not nessesarily to lamb first season. Just wondering about buying those instead of shearlings.

C B

It will be one of those that people say I buy runners at 75 or 100, there are runners and runners. I buy for others, 750 tupping lambs and just 175 "running lambs". Be a woman part time farming, that's farming the ground for inheritance tax purposes. Shes no fool, but tired unfarmed pasture, a 75 runner a year later would be a sight, those cheap late born lambs or poor doers, a, should not be kept but b, want attention and a good run to give a chance of making a sheep. I wont put my name to those sorts that wont do. Last few years runners whilst the majority are tidying grass and looking pretty on shooting estates have not made a penny, but this year I expect to show a profit, so whilst that's not really important to most of the buyers, will maintain the over inflated trade for runners im guessing. Good headed, good skinned lamb just shy of tupping that last year will have cost you 92/ 93 I expect to be 95 to 97. The lesser quality lambs that are not so bonny or strong, that may or not make a sheep the following year, that last year would cost you 80 to 84 im guessing will be 85 to 90? Probably will look back at this message in 2 months and think, Christ I know nowt, but that's my thoughts at the minute