Brexit again.

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
The UK government naively believe that if they play fair with the EU the EU will do the same, you would have thought after 40 years of experience the UK government would wake up to the facts of life.
Oh dear!!! The EU are requiring the UK to meet the same criteria that every other third country has to, they are being fair and treating the UK the same as everyone else. Why do you think they should treat you preferentially?
 

JimAndy

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Location
portadown
So you’re answer is to let the EU flood our markets with no restrictions whatever whilst the EU does all it can to cripple our exports, why do we bother to feed our nation at all.

again WE NEED TO IMPORT 40% of our food. it not about the EU flooding are market, it about us Needing the food. and a government that makes Food harder and dearer to buy is going to stay in power very long

The UK government naively believe that if they play fair with the EU the EU will do the same, you would have thought after 40 years of experience the UK government would wake up to the facts of life.

But the EU is playing fair. they treating us the same as any other 3rd country, because that what we are a 3rd country. this whole "we british, we special, we need better rules that everyone else" doesn't cut it in the real(rest of) world.
if you want different rules then do a real trade deal with the EU
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
Oh dear!!! The EU are requiring the UK to meet the same criteria that every other third country has to, they are being fair and treating the UK the same as everyone else. Why do you think they should treat you preferentially?
I don't, I just think the mountain of EU products that are exported to the UK should also be subject to the very same requirements to create a level playing field!
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I don't, I just think the mountain of EU products that are exported to the UK should also be subject to the very same requirements to create a level playing field!
They are. To export foodstuffs to the UK you have to meet BRC requirements and have had to even when the UK was in the EU, EU exporters have been meeting these requirements for several years. The UK had 4 years to prepare and did sweet FA in that time.
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
again WE NEED TO IMPORT 40% of our food. it not about the EU flooding are market, it about us Needing the food. and a government that makes Food harder and dearer to buy is going to stay in power very long



But the EU is playing fair. they treating us the same as any other 3rd country, because that what we are a 3rd country. this whole "we british, we special, we need better rules that everyone else" doesn't cut it in the real(rest of) world.
if you want different rules then do a real trade deal with the EU
We do not need to import vast amounts of EU food produce which often undercuts home producers, we are perfectly capable of producing everything the EU exports to us, as the UK subsidy system changes UK farmers are going to be further disadvantaged in competing with EU imports so why make it easy for them!
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
They are. To export foodstuffs to the UK you have to meet BRC requirements and have had to even when the UK was in the EU, EU exporters have been meeting these requirements for several years. The UK had 4 years to prepare and did sweet FA in that time.
NZ import a lot of food produce do they?
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
We do not need to import vast amounts of EU food produce which often undercuts home producers, we are perfectly capable of producing everything the EU exports to us, as the UK subsidy system changes UK farmers are going to be further disadvantaged in competing with EU imports so why make it easy for them!
The UK hasn’t got a sh!t show of producing enough food to keep the population fed.
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
A bit, but not much. No need really as we are an agricultural Nation with a small population, NZ has always had the ability to feed itself, the UK doesn’t have that ability, hence it has to import.
Seems to me without NZ cosying up to China you might have a hell of a lot more than you need, it's easy to be critical when you don't have imports competing with your market isn't it
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Seems to me without NZ cosying up to China you might have a hell of a lot more than you need, it's easy to be critical when you don't have imports competing with your market isn't it
Not been critical, it’s the reality of exporting, you have to meet the requirements of the markets to export to them, it really is quite simple.
China is a big market for us, without it we would have to look at markets elsewhere, don’t worry too much about it, we can always swamp the UK if required.
 

NI agri-food stakeholder groups discuss climate change bill with committee

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Written by Richard Halleron from Agriland

The Livestock and Meat Commission (LMC) recently submitted oral evidence to members of the Stormont Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (AERA) committee on the content and potential impact of the Northern Ireland Climate Change Bill (No.2).

This draft legislation was recently introduced to the Northern Ireland Assembly by the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (DAERA) in conjunction with agriculture minister, Edwin Poots.

“We were accompanied by representatives from a wide range of food industry bodies, including the Northern Ireland Meat Exporters’ Association,the Ulster Farmers’ Union [UFU], Northern...
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