Brexit again.

[holwellcourtfarm]

The paperwork isn’t that onerous. Why not do what everyone else does and fill it in?

Properly ....

"EU border forces are rejecting pallets if just a single digit is wrong on the packaging code."

 

[stewart]

Properly ....

"EU border forces are rejecting pallets if just a single digit is wrong on the packaging code."

Then put the correct packing code on the pallet in the first place.

 

[arcobob]

We have got to change our habits. My wife buys broccoli and cauliflower all the year round but there is no need. There are plenty of sprouts, cabbage, kale and root veg during winter in the UK.
I avoid imported food wherever possible, especially if it comes from the EU. I would rather patronise African economies.

 

[BrianV]

Not been critical, it’s the reality of exporting, you have to meet the requirements of the markets to export to them, it really is quite simple.
China is a big market for us, without it we would have to look at markets elsewhere, don’t worry too much about it, we can always swamp the UK if required.

In your case I'm sure we can make doubly sure all the paperwork is up to scratch, been much public criticism of the brand new Chinese flu over there so far?

 

[stewart]

In your case I'm sure we can make doubly sure all the paperwork is up to scratch, been much public criticism of the brand new Chinese flu over there so far?

We have been exporting to the UK for over 100 years so already able to have the paperwork up to scratch.
Fair bit of criticism of Covid, we have over 100 cases now.

 

[JimAndy]

We do not need to import vast amounts of EU food produce which often undercuts home producers, we are perfectly capable of producing everything the EU exports to us, as the UK subsidy system changes UK farmers are going to be further disadvantaged in competing with EU imports so why make it easy for them!

and yet we were Importing food long before we joined the EU or had subsidies

 

[BrianV]

and yet we were Importing food long before we joined the EU or had subsidies

Because UK governments have relied on a cheap food policy to keep the working class happy, I have a hopeful feeling with all the climate disasters in the world & our own explosion of imported citizens that policy is going to fail miserably in future.

 

[Ashtree]

Brexit caused as much disruption, delays, paperwork issues to little old Republic of Ireland, as it did to John Bull, because of the land bridge between it and the continent.
Paddy had enough of it within a few weeks, said fkuk this for a game of soldiers, and practically 100% cut out Britain and the land bridge. The rest is history. Dozens of new sea routes now running between Ireland and the continent. Republic has also massively increased its trade with NI, making a much bigger all island economy in the process.
Its called dealing with disruption. ROI can effectively deal with a huge disruption to supply lines and the economy. Britain seemingly can only whinge, whine and blame Johnny Foreigner. One really does have to wonder, what remains between the political ears of the once great empire. Not a lot I expect.

 

[BrianV]

Brexit caused as much disruption, delays, paperwork issues to little old Republic of Ireland, as it did to John Bull, because of the land bridge between it and the continent.
Paddy had enough of it within a few weeks, said fkuk this for a game of soldiers, and practically 100% cut out Britain and the land bridge. The rest is history. Dozens of new sea routes now running between Ireland and the continent. Republic has also massively increased its trade with NI, making a much bigger all island economy in the process.
Its called dealing with disruption. ROI can effectively deal with a huge disruption to supply lines and the economy. Britain seemingly can only whinge, whine and blame Johnny Foreigner. One really does have to wonder, what remains between the political ears of the once great empire. Not a lot I expect.

Could this possibly account for the record beef prices over here, all that cheap Irish beef now heading to the EU bet the French will love that!

 

[Muck Spreader]

Oh dear!!! The EU are requiring the UK to meet the same criteria that every other third country has to, they are being fair and treating the UK the same as everyone else. Why do you think they should treat you preferentially?

Have you not heard of British exceptionalism?

 

[Ncap]

We have got to change our habits. My wife buys broccoli and cauliflower all the year round but there is no need. There are plenty of sprouts, cabbage, kale and root veg during winter in the UK.
I avoid imported food wherever possible, especially if it comes from the EU. I would rather patronise African economies.

Exactly! And what's wrong with gruel anyway? Or water from a standpipe? If rickets was good enough for my father, then it's good enough for me

 

[Ashtree]

Could this possibly account for the record beef prices over here, all that cheap Irish beef now heading to the EU bet the French will love that!

You really, really should check facts. We are still stocking your shelves with beef. I didn’t say we left the UK market. I said we abandoned the UK land bridge for our EU traffic. We can’t be standing around while you lot get in a drama about EU paperwork. Time is money.

 

[Danllan]

The Brexit vote was five years ago,are people only just now beginning to understand what brexit means.

One thing it will mean is that we won't be obliged to share a quota of the vast number of 'migrants' that the EU will be having to take in over the next few years... doesn't mean none will end up here, the lying and hypocritical French will do their least, as usual, to prevent lives being risked in the English Channel. Another thing will be that we won't have to send treasure or people to the 'frontier', which is about as porous as one can imagine.

As for other matters, I heard an interesting interview on the radio a few days ago; the interviewee was a prof' of something or other - at Oxford I think, though he sounded Latin - and he reckoned that by 2025-26 the UK would have increased its importing of foodstuffs from non-EU countries by around 25%. A significant amount, as I think we can all agree. But not as significant as the estimated further 20% by about 2030, and yet another 20% by 2040, all estimates of course, it could well be a bit lower, or higher.

Now, this is / will be in a fair part for political reasons, but the main argument was that of climate and cost. The EU won't be able to produce a lot of what we want, not in sufficient quantity, and not at the right price. He reckoned we'll be buying from South America, various parts of Africa and, possibly Russia, with Canada and New Zealand increasing exports to us as well. I don't recall his mentioning Australia... but I buy Ozzie wine whenever possible and I'm sure others do to.

 

[le bon paysan]

Now, this is / will be in a fair part for political reasons, but the main argument was that of climate and cost. The EU won't be able to produce a lot of what we want, not in sufficient quantity, and not at the right price. He reckoned we'll be buying from South America, various parts of Africa and, possibly Russia, with Canada and New Zealand increasing exports to us as well. I don't recall his mentioning Australia... but I buy Ozzie wine whenever possible and I'm sure others do to.

And this is where the "problems are" . because the uk wishes to buy from the Americas / Africa etc. the uk government will not sign to keep food standards the same as the EU. This is the crux of the problem.
You cant have it both ways, Comply with EU standards and there's little paperwork.

Note in the article, half the import code was missing. Half. That's not the customs officer's fault is it.

 

[Danllan]

And this is where the "problems are" . because the uk wishes to buy from the Americas / Africa etc. the uk government will not sign to keep food standards the same as the EU. This is the crux of the problem.
You cant have it both ways, Comply with EU standards and there's little paperwork.

Note in the article, half the import code was missing. Half. That's not the customs officer's fault is it.

Derr...! No, we can keep whatever standards we wish, and those wanting to sell to here will have to meet them; just as, if we wish to sell to the EU, we'll have to meet theirs. It isn't complicated.

As for your last bit, no again; and you haven't written what I am sure you know is the actual truth; i.e that the paperwork is the same regardless of whether or not 'EU standards' are complied with when one does not submit oneself to the EU's authority*. But you knew that already.

Out of interest, any news about the great idea of the lefties / greens (and attached nutters) in the EP to have a new 'EU Law' to ensure all oil and gas coming into the EU is sourced 'ethically'?

My take on what they regard as ethical is that it doesn't harm the environment or help finance oppressive and undemocratic regimes; but I'm sure the EC - under orders from Germany - will find that neither the Middle East nor Russia do anything bad in any way, at all, ever. What do you think?


*I know this because some things an interest of mine send to over the the EU, despite being tested and confirmed as way above any required standard here or in the EU, now require additional and unnecessary form-filling; whereas because the UK has decided not to be vindictive - and, by the way not break the terms of our trade agreement as the EU are (foolishly leaving a shot in our locker for the future) - we get the same stuff from, e.g. Germany as we did before in the same way, with no additional hassle, for now. But we may source from South Korea or Japan in future if our stuff keeps being picked on, the savings in buying from there offsetting the inconvenience to us.

 

[le bon paysan]

Again, half the code was missing.!
Have you seen what your Greens and the Scottish mob have as aspirations?

 

[Highland Mule]

additional form-filling

For clarity, is this additional to that required of other third countries importing to the EU, or just additional to what were required when your interest was part of said EU?

 

[arcobob]

You really, really should check facts. We are still stocking your shelves with beef. I didn’t say we left the UK market. I said we abandoned the UK land bridge for our EU traffic. We can’t be standing around while you lot get in a drama about EU paperwork. Time is money.

You did not abandon the land bridge, it abandoned you, relieved our roads and ports and was an added bonus of Brexit.

 

[Ashtree]

You did not abandon the land bridge, it abandoned you, relieved our roads and ports and was an added bonus of Brexit.

Excellent. Mind you keep the factor 50 liberally applied. The sunny uplands are likely to get too sunny!

 

[Danllan]

For clarity, is this additional to that required of other third countries importing to the EU, or just additional to what were required when your interest was part of said EU?

Depends on whether you want to take what @le bon paysan wrote as true or a downright lie.