Brexit again.

[thesilentone]

There is also the tangential but nonetheless significant greenlighting of dumping effluent anywhere and everywhere so we can once again become the dirty man of Europe

Nothing has changed, the water companies dump raw sewage every time we have a deluge of rain, they are already the worst polluters.

 

[Ashtree]

Brexit resulted in many furriners leaving the UK.
That in turn has hit some sectors more than others, with a shortage of labour. Transport and haulage is one of the sectors badly effected.
Of course the sector has asked the government to issue temporary visas in order to be able to attract some drivers from the EU. Naturally the government has refused, as to do so would be an admission of Brexit failure. Fear not though. The well practiced u turn is on the way.
Brexit means Brexit…..

 

[Highland Mule]

No, you most defiantly should not. However, it's fairly typical of the fake news World we live in.

The driver shortage is f all to do with Brexit, however Brexit (amongst the other issues listed) has brought it to a crises point (or that's what I read).

If the 'in' end of new drivers compared to the 'out' end of those leaving is as described in the German report, no wonder their is a shortage.

'course you're right guv'nor. Odd that the same shortages aren't emptying EO country shelves but, as Sheryl Crow used to sing, 'if it makes you happy...'

 

[thesilentone]

Brexit resulted in many furriners leaving the UK.
That in turn has hit some sectors more than others, with a shortage of labour. Transport and haulage is one of the sectors badly effected.
Of course the sector has asked the government to issue temporary visas in order to be able to attract some drivers from the EU. Naturally the government has refused, as to do so would be an admission of Brexit failure. Fear not though. The well practiced u turn is on the way.
Brexit means Brexit…..

For the last time, don't let the facts get in the way of a good whinge.

Brexit has F all to do with the EU and UK driver shortage !!

 

[Highland Mule]

For the last time

Yay !

(bye)

But just to remind you...

The logistics industry has been warning about driver shortages for many years but a combination of Covid-19, Brexit and the ongoing structural issues restricting the supply of drivers has brought us to a crisis point

 

[Ncap]

Nothing has changed, the water companies dump raw sewage every time we have a deluge of rain, they are already the worst polluters.

You're saying that's a good thing, then. Right? As I said, dirty man of Europe

 

[thesilentone]

You're saying that's a good thing, then. Right? As I said, dirty man of Europe

How do you know we are ?

How do you get the idea "You're saying that's a good thing, then. Right?" or a you another who would like to change the narrative and become the purveyor of fake news ??

 

[caveman]

What amuses me is... Why is Europe in such dire straits re drivers when we've sent them all their own drivers back from here?

 

[czechmate]

What amuses me is... Why is Europe in such dire straits re drivers when we've sent them all their own drivers back from here?

Retire here on the mainland at 38

 

[Ncap]

How do you know we are ?

How do you get the idea "You're saying that's a good thing, then. Right?" or a you another who would like to change the narrative and become the purveyor of fake news ??

https://www.sas.org.uk/news/campaigns/dirty-man-of-europe/

 

[Ashtree]

https://www.sas.org.uk/news/campaigns/dirty-man-of-europe/

Meanwhile in it‘s Brexit driven angst, to roll over and be taken from behind by Australia in trade talks, Britain dropped all environmental protection promises.

https://www.independent.co.uk/clima...tralia-climate-trade-deal-truss-b1916260.html

 

[thesilentone]

https://www.sas.org.uk/news/campaigns/dirty-man-of-europe/

So the " Dirty Man of Europe " is a quote from 25 years ago, then the article then go's on to state how much things have improved since then.

So your point is ???

 

[thesilentone]

What amuses me is... Why is Europe in such dire straits re drivers when we've sent them all their own drivers back from here?

The reality is, only a small number have returned to their home Countries. Out of 320,000 truckers, maybe 20,000 went home during the lock-downs and some did not register for UK residency.

The guestimate is, the number of foreign drivers in the UK has dropped from 12% to 9% of the total.

This is not the issue, other than the big Companies liked foreign truckers as they didn't whinge, and were willing to work for less, thus driving down trucker wages.

The under laying problem has always been more leaving than starting,Covid stopped the Government agencies carrying out tests, so the "chickens have come home to roost"

Blame who you like, I blame greedy Corporates and the RHA for sitting on there hands.

 

[Ncap]

So the " Dirty Man of Europe " is a quote from 25 years ago, then the article then go's on to state how much things have improved since then.

So your point is ???

My point is (if I really wants to 'go's' on) is that
"There is also the tangential but nonetheless significant greenlighting of dumping effluent anywhere and everywhere so we can once again become the dirty man of Europe"

i.e. gov says it's OK to dump crap

Ergo, once again dirty man of Europe

(Keep up)

 

[thesilentone]

My point is (if I really wants to 'go's' on) is that
"There is also the tangential but nonetheless significant greenlighting of dumping effluent anywhere and everywhere so we can once again become the dirty man of Europe"

i.e. gov says it's OK to dump crap

Ergo, once again dirty man of Europe

(Keep up)

Just blame Brexit

 

[Ncap]

You are 100% right. No pun intended but this government really doesn't give a sh!t

 

[7610 super q]

Poland must be full again now ?

 

[czechmate]

Poland must be full again now ?

Its quite big so probably not, but for sure it must be a good thing that lots of their useful workers have returned home (it’s reasonable to think that those that get off their arse and travel to another country will be amongst the better workers).
It was becoming quite a problem there that so many had “left”

 

[stewart]

How much has covid cost ? Not only the uk but every country in the world has spent billions it has to be paid back, allegedly there are 1.5 million unemployed here yet companies cant find workers, yet no one dare mention this fact or the fact that we all have to pay more tax to pay off the covid debt and pay for an aging population's care. Personally Ithink all foreign based internet firms should have an transaction tax applied but it's probably quite difficult to apply.

The estimated annual cost to the UK is £12bn the £350m weekly "saving" to be spent on the NHS is £18bn leaving £6bn to play with, surely with those figures there should be a tax cut due.

 

[Danllan]

For the last time, don't let the facts get in the way of a good whinge.

Brexit has F all to do with the EU and UK driver shortage !!

What, is there a shortage in the EU? That can't be true, not in the greatest civilisation ever held together by subsidy, and threat...

Retire here on the mainland at 38

Two things come to mind on reading that: 1) If only you were fully joking; 2) How old are you?

Meanwhile in it‘s Brexit driven angst, to roll over and be taken from behind by Australia in trade talks, Britain dropped all environmental protection promises.

https://www.independent.co.uk/clima...tralia-climate-trade-deal-truss-b1916260.html

Is the EU still seeking trade deals with the US and China?

And... where's all your EUgas coming from now then?

Oh, and any chance of a long-awaited comment in re the EU's appalling treatment of migrants?