Bridleway Issue

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
Got a call from Highways the other day asking if I would unlock the large gate along to Bridleway running through the farm to give vehicle access. When I asked why, he said they were putting new signs up. I mentioned that no one had said anything to me and could he send me a plan of where they are to go.
Anyway, they are planning to put 8 blue metal 650mm x 450mm signs up in my hedgerows along with a mounting block on either side of the bridge going over the A1 as apparently some of the girls have issues riding their horses over it and it appears that nowadays, no one can get on or off a horse without a mounting block!!
The problem is, the road is only 15'wide at it's widest and under 12' at it's narrowest and I am concerned about getting large farm traffic past these mounting blocks. I also have issue with the number and garish colour of all these fecking signs. It is going to be a nightmare cutting the hedges!!
I know it is a PROW but presumably the verges and hedges remain under my control and they should need my permission to put these signs up? Also, why do they have to put these big blue signs up? Why can't they put timber signs that are clear and are more suitable for the countryside? The main entrance to my farm is going to look like the bloody M6 Motorway!!
Rant over!
Any suggestions? Anyone know what rights I have over this even if it is on my own land?
I should add that I have said I will not give them access until I have had a meeting with them along with my land agent.
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
If it is a bridleway, and the lane is private, I can see no lawful reason for them to insist they have the right to take a vehicle up it.
Tell them you will accept a steel mounting step which can be removed if access is required by farm machinery.
It is a problem taking some horses, over these bridges and dismounting is advisable. I suspect they are covering their behinds .
 

i dont belief it

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North East
Got something similar with footpath folks wanting to reinstate a foot bridge that washed away four years ago. Got land agent involved from the start that was a year ago no further forward and highways agreed to pay fees
 

J 1177

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
Got something similar with footpath folks wanting to reinstate a foot bridge that washed away four years ago. Got land agent involved from the start that was a year ago no further forward and highways agreed to pay fees
Is the footpath still closed down there. I thought you could have given the rambelers some waders to get through
 

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
If it is a bridleway, and the lane is private, I can see no lawful reason for them to insist they have the right to take a vehicle up it.
Tell them you will accept a steel mounting step which can be removed if access is required by farm machinery.
It is a problem taking some horses, over these bridges and dismounting is advisable. I suspect they are covering their behinds .
Our travelling friends will love that, but then I guess that is not my problem!!;)
Thing is, can they unilaterally decide to put up extra sign posts in your hedges or on your verges? I am fairly sure they have no rights over the mounting blocks.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Perish the thought our caravan dwelling friends would do such a thing:whistle:
There is only one other thing you could do, offer to give the young ladies a leg up :whistle:
Sorry assuming you are male
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
This is the monstrosity our taxes have been used to pay for, down the road from me

it gives a good picture of the mounting block
https://goo.gl/images/FETniu

and in case you think pedestrians / cyclists have been forgotten
https://goo.gl/images/tykKud
notice pedestrians and cyclists have their own separate bridge to the horses, except of course I have not seen one cyclist use the steps preferring to ride up the horse side , in fact all the pedestrians I have seen use it too, the only people who do not use the horse pathway is horses! never seen one.
The bridge was constructed after a man killed himself deliberately, on a crossing, a mile down the track! further that crossing is still open to walkers. Both crossings have exceptional visibility there is no reason for anybody to come to harm unless they want to.
the whole thing is a complete lunacy
sorry I could not make the picture appear in thew thread, if anyone knows how to please change it
 

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
This is the monstrosity our taxes have been used to pay for, down the road from me

it gives a good picture of the mounting block
https://goo.gl/images/FETniu

and in case you think pedestrians / cyclists have been forgotten
https://goo.gl/images/tykKud
notice pedestrians and cyclists have their own separate bridge to the horses, except of course I have not seen one cyclist use the steps preferring to ride up the horse side , in fact all the pedestrians I have seen use it too, the only people who do not use the horse pathway is horses! never seen one.
The bridge was constructed after a man killed himself deliberately, on a crossing, a mile down the track! further that crossing is still open to walkers. Both crossings have exceptional visibility there is no reason for anybody to come to harm unless they want to.
the whole thing is a complete lunacy
sorry I could not make the picture appear in thew thread, if anyone knows how to please change it
Bloody hell! If they are planning a mounting block like that, it will be shaking hands with my digger!!:mad:
 

Extreme Optimist

Member
Livestock Farmer
Just received this from my land agent which made me chuckle.

Have researched the matter now.



Signposting needs the consent of the owner/occupier before any signs can be placed.

(SEE ca 1968 SECTION 27 , AS AMENDED BY wca 1981 S 65).

SO TELL THEM TO PUT THEM AWAY TILL THEY DO A DEAL WITH YOU/GIVE YOURCONSENT.

If any event they look more like motorway signs than Bridleway signs.
 

marcot

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
This is the monstrosity our taxes have been used to pay for, down the road from me

it gives a good picture of the mounting block
https://goo.gl/images/FETniu

and in case you think pedestrians / cyclists have been forgotten
https://goo.gl/images/tykKud
notice pedestrians and cyclists have their own separate bridge to the horses, except of course I have not seen one cyclist use the steps preferring to ride up the horse side , in fact all the pedestrians I have seen use it too, the only people who do not use the horse pathway is horses! never seen one.
The bridge was constructed after a man killed himself deliberately, on a crossing, a mile down the track! further that crossing is still open to walkers. Both crossings have exceptional visibility there is no reason for anybody to come to harm unless they want to.
the whole thing is a complete lunacy
sorry I could not make the picture appear in thew thread, if anyone knows how to please change it

sadly the only person with the knowledge to display your pictures properly has been put up against a wall and shot :cry::eek::rolleyes:
 

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