Bridleways help

Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
If someone put a bench up on my land, I would be straight up there and remove it, probably drop it back at the road side or on the drive of the person who put it there. I may even email the council and inform them there has been flytipping of a bench.
Parish council installed a bench on a bridleway that was also part of my access to a block of land.

It soon disappeared and they've resurfaced the whole thing in soft plastic tarmac.

Let's see what that is like after a clip of silage and 14t trailers.

Useless cocks.
 

True North

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
If someone put a bench up on my land, I would be straight up there and remove it, probably drop it back at the road side or on the drive of the person who put it there. I may even email the council and inform them there has been flytipping of a bench.
Long story, we don't really know its provenence. But yes, if they try it again we will be adopting this stance.
 
Location
southwest
Are the class 3, road legal scooters not classed as motor vehicle and thus would be illegal to drive on pavements and by extension footpaths? Surely only class 2 scooters that are not road legal would be legal to use on pavements, footpaths and bridleways? Note that none road legal scooters can be used on road where there is no pedestrian path in order to access a pedestrian path. I have every sympathy for those that require these aids, indeed I am in the search of one for my mother this week... I am all for facilitating access where practical but I think the expectation of being able to go anywhere and everywhere on them is equivalent to me expecting a smooth and maintained tarmacked footpath to the top of Everest.

So if it's road legal it shouldn't be used on a pavement or footpath. But there must be a limit to how far a non road legal scooter can be taken on a road in order to access a footpath? 50 metres or so to get from one stretch of pavement to another in a town, I can understand. But in the countryside, the start of a RoW might be literally miles from a stretch of pavement? Would a person be allowed to take a non road legal scooter, say a mile along a single track road in order to access a RoW? Would a farmer be within his rights to make a RoW footpath inaccessible to motor scooters on the grounds that the only sort that could legally get to the start of the RoW are, by definition, not allowed onto it?
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
So if it's road legal it shouldn't be used on a pavement or footpath. But there must be a limit to how far a non road legal scooter can be taken on a road in order to access a footpath? 50 metres or so to get from one stretch of pavement to another in a town, I can understand. But in the countryside, the start of a RoW might be literally miles from a stretch of pavement? Would a person be allowed to take a non road legal scooter, say a mile along a single track road in order to access a RoW?

My knowledge only goes this far... it doesnt mention how far a class 2 scooter can go on the road where there is no pavement... Apparently though, class 3 can be used on a pavement up to 4mph..

"There are two categories of mobility scooter. Class 2 mobility scooters can’t be used on the road (except where there isn’t a pavement) and have a maximum speed of 4 mph. This type of mobility scooter does not need to be registered. Class 3 mobility scooters can be used on the road, and have a maximum speed of 4 mph off the road, and 8 mph on the road. You must be 14 or over to drive a class 3 invalid carriage.
Class 3 mobility scooters need to be registered with the DVLA. To register a class 3 mobility scooter, complete form V55/4 for new vehicles, or V55/5 for used vehicles. You are not permitted to use bus lanes, cycle lanes or motorways."
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
So who/what defines what a mobility scooter is?

Could someone on a trials bike claim it's a mobility scooter as he has a bad leg?

And as not all "mobility scooters" are legal on public highway, does this not rule them out anyway?
I think the last point is very debatable and the only reason to exclude them would be lack of insurance. They are probably limited to 4mph off road, as in on pavement, but I suspect it is unlikely any police would be interested in enforcing this. Technically on a paved highway they require registration if they can do 12 mph
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
The Ubersh!t ones that don’t work after a week and always get left open, a quad will go through the half that opens first.
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Much better design, quad has thou’s spare each side but at least this one closes. Black handle lifts upwards and then you pull it back.
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True North

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
The Ubersh!t ones that don’t work after a week and always get left open, a quad will go through the half that opens first.View attachment 955598

Much better design, quad has thou’s spare each side but at least this one closes. Black handle lifts upwards and then you pull it back.View attachment 955597
Thank you for these, that's really helpful. I will do some research and soeak to the ROW nominated person at the council.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Thank you for these, that's really helpful. I will do some research and soeak to the ROW nominated person at the council.
No problem, if you want better picture of the small one and manufacture etc I can get a close up. I think centrewire make the really crap ones, have a few of the centrewire one with pedestrian access and their really good as they have offset hinges so close themselves 👍🏻
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
What are you basing that assumption on? A lot of the tracks, roads/lanes and ginnels round here were cobbled out of necessity for horses etc, as I am sure Lancs is in parts.

I wouldn't get away with the no entry sign and no entry as they'd be straight out, it's like a bloody highway with people saying hello to you every 3.42 minutes.
Cobbles were not cheap to buy and lay so council only laid where legally oblidged to do so. This normally applied to turnpike roads and roads under enclosure acts. The cobbles in ginnels came much later with legislation to clear the slums of open sewars. Obvious exceptions in Roman settlements like York but when the Romans left the demise of cobbles ensued only to be revived by the Victorians.
 

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