British friesian bulls

[mixed farm]

I'm not saying a hard calving bull, just not an easy one on mature cows. I find here that the more powerful calf usually turns into the more powerful cow if that's what you're looking for. Provided she doesn't die during the pull! But it is hard to argue with your figures.

 

[som farmer]

what I am asking is, the hols seem to have got themselves in a place where a lot of farmers are looking at alterative breeds. one cause is the fraility of some hols, and is a facter the need for easy calving bulls for use on hfrs, one of the reasons why.
if so, will the fr end up in the same place by using easy calving bulls. I fully accept their are bulls that don't. but am concerned that it may happen

 

[dairyrow]

surely strength comes through with them maturing. Which alot of holsteins dont last the time to get there

 

[Friesianfan]

Goonhilly James

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

View attachment 777808 Goonhilly James

Some width on him!

 

[Friesianfan]

Some width on him!

Yes he’s a fine looking bull. Hopefully have a nice few heifers rom him next year

 

[Friesianfan]

been looking at cogent fr catalogue, nearly all are easy calving, I have always thought that the downfall of the holstiens was the fact that the replacement rate was high, therefore needing easy cavling so we could use hfrs to get replacements, and ending up with thin chested, tall, weaker cows, so, are the fr breed going down the same root ? looking at the grazing catalogue, there is only 1 pure fr, most have a lot of holstien in them, with a bit of jersey in some. think we need Friesian fans thoughts.

Easy calving and narrow chest width don’t always go together. Look at the photo of Goonhilly James above. He’s easy calving and certainly not narrow!

 

[cowgirl95]

Easy calving and narrow chest width don’t always go together. Look at the photo of Goonhilly James above. He’s easy calving and certainly not narrow!

How many calves have you got from him ?

 

[cowgirl95]

Easy calving and narrow chest width don’t always go together. Look at the photo of Goonhilly James above. He’s easy calving and certainly not narrow!

Was just wondering because just had 20 straws delivered and was thinking of using him on a heifer or 2

 

[Friesianfan]

How many calves have you got from him ?

None here yet. I know someone who has though. He found them easily born. They were on cows though

 

[farmboy]

I’ve had a couple born and were all calved easy enough

 

[cowgirl95]

I’ve had a couple born and were all calved easy enough

Has anybody ever had a Friesian bull that was difficult calving on cows?

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Has anybody ever had a Friesian bull that was difficult calving on cows?

Premiers not easy the bull calves can be huge. All the heifers calved ok though.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

@Friesianfan did you go to genus yesterday?

 

[Friesianfan]

I'm still here. Going to see the bull stud in a minute. Visited a high yielding Holstein herd yesterday in Cheshire and felt the Cheshire pressure @pappuller ! I

 

[farmertom]

I'm still here. Going to see the bull stud in a minute. Visited a high yielding Holstein herd yesterday in Cheshire and felt the Cheshire pressure @pappuller ! I

You should call in for a brew if your in the area

 

[pappuller]

I'm still here. Going to see the bull stud in a minute. Visited a high yielding Holstein herd yesterday in Cheshire and felt the Cheshire pressure @pappuller ! I

Who was that ? As @farmertom said we are both v close to the m6

 

[Friesianfan]

Battery on phone ran out. Don’t think you would have appreciated 24 of us rolling up. But thanks for the offer . Can’t think of the name of the chap. Richard was the son John was the father. Right by the railway track

You should call in for a brew if your in the area

Who was that ? As @farmertom said we are both v close to the m6

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[Cows 'n grass]

A trio of jersey X Joseph

 

[cattow]

Lakemead's turn to have the top proven bull of all time