British friesian bulls

[Ed15677]

Looking good. Impressive classification, well done . Not much semen left now.
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He’s not done a bad job for us.
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[Ed15677]

Looking good. Impressive classification, well done . Not much semen left now.

He’s not done a bad job for us.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

He’s not done a bad job for us. View attachment 945266

Is that off a Holstein or British friesian?

 

[Ed15677]

Is that off a Holstein or British friesian?

Off Holstein just had a few calve pleased with them all,

 

[Tsa115]

Is that the bull that @Tsa115 bought?

Yes. sold him ond last December to a local dairy farm. Shame to see him to go but he did nearly 3 years without any bother never lame and very quiet.

 

[Rhydwen1]

I'm not sure why only 1 photo loaded, the cow on the left is a lakemead jasper not a josh this is the other one

 

[Rhydwen1]

how old ? they look alright, he's on the selection list for the spr calvers

There October 18 born

 

[sidjon]

Mine arrived today thanks CB.

Then ask Customer Services

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Still not received mine, have rung customer services twice as they said they would get back to me.

 

[ColB]

Hi all long time thread follower, first time poster.

Many people milking Jingle cows, seem the very good on rump and positive chest but score very high calving ease which don't usually go hand in hand, looking for mature 70/30% Holstein/freasian cows

Also what's the flavour of non Chad bulls, have a good few James and bryster maidens and 1st lactation.

 

[LTH]

How much does the Holstein influence the figures for Friesians now, just wonder why top bulls from the past score so poorly. Or is it that the breed is a lot better now, I personally prefer the look of a lot of the cows from the past from the pictures I’ve seen. Just curios because it’s not something I know a lot about, like Wraxcourt Bounty looked a smart bull with 18000 daughters, in an old genus catalogue in another thread but has poor type and production traits.

 

[More to life]

How much does the Holstein influence the figures for Friesians now, just wonder why top bulls from the past score so poorly. Or is it that the breed is a lot better now, I personally prefer the look of a lot of the cows from the past from the pictures I’ve seen. Just curios because it’s not something I know a lot about, like Wraxcourt Bounty looked a smart bull with 18000 daughters, in an old genus catalogue in another thread but has poor type and production traits.

because they weren't very good ?

 

[som farmer]

How much does the Holstein influence the figures for Friesians now, just wonder why top bulls from the past score so poorly. Or is it that the breed is a lot better now, I personally prefer the look of a lot of the cows from the past from the pictures I’ve seen. Just curios because it’s not something I know a lot about, like Wraxcourt Bounty looked a smart bull with 18000 daughters, in an old genus catalogue in another thread but has poor type and production traits.

breeders follow traits, so the ultimate hol, is changing to wards a shorter, wider, stronger cow, watched a good herd dispersal yesterday, on marteye, very tidy cows, and made very good prices, but they were narrow, and not that many senior cows. Many fr bulls are going 'back' from hol influence, not a criticism, they had to compete with hols. For my money, the hol breeders will breed down to a fr, quicker than fr breeders will get there, simply because the gene pool in the holstiens is enormous, whereas the fr, is tiny in comparison.

 

[LTH]

because they weren't very good ?

That’s what I don’t get though, why do the cows look better then than today. The photographs of the best compared with the best today look better cows in my opinion but have worse type traits or is that not a good representation. If they looked sh!t fair enough but they don’t?

 

[Rossymons]

That’s what I don’t get though, why do the cows look better then than today. The photographs of the best compared with the best today look better cows in my opinion but have worse type traits or is that not a good representation. If they looked sh!t fair enough but they don’t?

Or it's just your opinion that they look crap in comparison?

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I do think the British friesian nowadays are like a friesian type Holstein totally different from those years ago.

 

[joep83]

How much does the Holstein influence the figures for Friesians now, just wonder why top bulls from the past score so poorly. Or is it that the breed is a lot better now, I personally prefer the look of a lot of the cows from the past from the pictures I’ve seen. Just curios because it’s not something I know a lot about, like Wraxcourt Bounty looked a smart bull with 18000 daughters, in an old genus catalogue in another thread but has poor type and production traits.

Bounty bred low yielding slow milkers here, they were useless

 

[som farmer]

That’s what I don’t get though, why do the cows look better then than today. The photographs of the best compared with the best today look better cows in my opinion but have worse type traits or is that not a good representation. If they looked sh!t fair enough but they don’t?

i was given some farm and country mags, 1950/51, both fr and hol's, and many other breeds, look totally different than today. Some of those old fr from the 50/60's were some miserable old bitches, with bad bags common, probably only remember the bad ones. But i don't think it's either desirable, or possible, to go back to those cattle, everything moves forward, the hols just went to far.

 

[More to life]

I do think the British friesian nowadays are like a friesian type Holstein totally different from those years ago.

Holsteins have changed just as much pretty sure that's a good thing

 

[LTH]

Or it's just your opinion that they look crap in comparison?

Not saying any look crap good cows but more like the Holsteins that were first introduced now, looked wider stronger bulls but have narrow chest figures? I’m just going off photographs and an old dispersal catalogue where they seemed to milk just as well. I never milked them then, wasn’t born, so that’s why I’m asking.

 

[More to life]

Not saying any look crap good cows but more like the Holsteins that were first introduced now, looked wider stronger bulls but have narrow chest figures? I’m just going off photographs and an old dispersal catalogue where they seemed to milk just as well. I never milked them then, wasn’t born, so that’s why I’m asking.

with the exception of petrill magnet the friesians of my youth were vile creatures