British sugar contracts

nelly55

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Location
Yorkshire
Well how is this going to work,if you grow sugar beet near the factory you will get a bonus because it’s classed green with less transport carbon footprint.So are we going to see 2 separate heaps of beet at the factory ,because I guess we won’t see 2 separate bags of sugar in the shops explaining how green one lot is.
 

crazy_bull

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Well how is this going to work,if you grow sugar beet near the factory you will get a bonus because it’s classed green with less transport carbon footprint.So are we going to see 2 separate heaps of beet at the factory ,because I guess we won’t see 2 separate bags of sugar in the shops explaining how green one lot is.
Surely it’s cheaper haulage that’s where the saving is? Could never get my head round flat pricing beet when 5 miles from factory vs 60miles from factory could cost £6/t difference in haulage!

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No matter how it looks after 30 yrs of growing beet personally it's time to call it a day. Brilliant crop but financially has come to be a disaster . Messed about, contract this contract that. Haulage allowance etc etc When 15 artic load comes to the same as 50 ton of barley at £160 time to shake your head and just say no more. Its not worth it.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It certainly tests your patience and never seems to work in our favour. This year the problem is low throughout at Newark. Perfect lifting conditions but can’t move it, so can’t drill wheat. Getting a bit fed up of being an extension to other industries storage system and fully exposed to their internal process problems. I’m still tempted to sign again but some of these difficulties don’t make it an easy decision.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Beet is sold as a good break crop but the reality is you can rarely get a winter cereal in behind it here as you can’t get the beet away fast enough. So the break crop aspect loses its attraction somewhat. We are tantalisingly close to clearing a field and getting some wheat in but that is as far as we ever get. Next thing it will rain and will be game over for winter drilling so that’s another £100 an acre off the bottom line as we move into spring wheat or barley window.
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
@DrWazzock I think I'm right in thinking you've filled your pad, could you not just extend your pad in to the field a bit to get finished??? You say your tantalisingly close to getting the field cleared so surely it's worth taking a punt.

Level the ground first and remove any trailer wheelings as your tipping and a half decent loader driver would be able to get them off the ground cleanly.
The prospect of getting wheat in ASAP has got to be worth buggering up a small area for a pad 🤷
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
@DrWazzock I think I'm right in thinking you've filled your pad, could you not just extend your pad in to the field a bit to get finished??? You say your tantalisingly close to getting the field cleared so surely it's worth taking a punt.

Level the ground first and remove any trailer wheelings as your tipping and a half decent loader driver would be able to get them off the ground cleanly.
The prospect of getting wheat in ASAP has got to be worth buggering up a small area for a pad 🤷
I think that’s the solution. I think people panic about storing beet. As long as you handle it carefully I think it’s good for three weeks outdoors even at this time of year.
The thing is nobody knows what the factory throughput will be so it’s all a gamble.
We always pied down mangolds in September and they came out good as new in Feb. 👍
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
@DrWazzock I think I'm right in thinking you've filled your pad, could you not just extend your pad in to the field a bit to get finished??? You say your tantalisingly close to getting the field cleared so surely it's worth taking a punt.

Level the ground first and remove any trailer wheelings as your tipping and a half decent loader driver would be able to get them off the ground cleanly.
The prospect of getting wheat in ASAP has got to be worth buggering up a small area for a pad 🤷
We tip almost all ours in the field....... the Dr likes a worry ;) . Should be able to make a nice heap loading straight off the cyclone even?
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
Do you have a maus line tho? 🤔 I need one of them to go with my fendt…..
Definitely, it's the next step for you to become a proper job farmer, vaddy, fendt(with a front box the size of a family car) and Maus heap👌......oh and a column in the farming press......oh wait a minute 🙄

We had the Maus load all ours for a few years but because we have non of the about we had to go back to peasent level!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Todd cleaner loader and Sanderson Forklift here. Cleaner loader mainly because the Sanderson has a job reaching over the side of these new high sided wagons. It can do it but it sways a bit with the mast at full extension.
The hydra inspecta is a bit slow till the oil warms up for some reason. Treated it to a new set of rollers two years ago. I love old beet equipment. But it’s tends to absorb cash and time.
 

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