Broken mouthed ewes on twitter

[muleman]

But who the hell would use a tup like that in the first place, if it looks hellish and has a bad mouth?
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It wasn’t like that bought and spending a lot of cash on something bends the mind “Expensive Tup Syndrome”. Mind you, there is also “cheap lamb syndrome” where you don’t fully back yourself to use an obvious bargain because others didn’t make it expensive enough for you. You can’t win.
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You can have the worst tup and worst ewes and produce the best ,correct good carcassed, correct mouthed mule sheep, some of the best confirmation mule lambs i ever saw were by a tup named 'quasimodo' which says it all.
Back to the hybrid vigour i suppose!

 

[andybk]

Did he not think to discuss it with them beforehand, if he was wanting to register them?

Why would he even bother to register them? Just get on with breeding them with out registering them.

dont think there would have been enough genetic diversity long term , hes into other breeds now , more of a politics thing anyway i expect

 

[Nithsdale]

I can’t help it, when I see Easycares on good ground I just think it’s a waste.

I think the same when I see Herdwicks, anywhere...

 

[unlacedgecko]

I think the same when I see Herdwicks, anywhere...

There's some not far from me, on the harsh hill country of Lincolnshire.

 

[Benn]

Dorper growth is terrible as well.

I thought the Dorper was meant to be the terminal of shedders,
whats there pros ,hardy and carcass?

 

[neilo]

I can’t help it, when I see Easycares on good ground I just think it’s a waste.

Even if those easycares are stocked a lot tighter than some breeds might be, giving higher output per ha?

 

[Benn]

Even if those easycares are stocked a lot tighter than some breeds might be, giving higher output per ha?

and Possibly higher profit margin,

I really dont understand the Dislike some people have with shedding breeds ,
even when they have never had any,
At least try a few out,
You may End up converting to the “dark side”

 

[Woolless]

I can’t help it, when I see Easycares on good ground I just think it’s a waste.

'Easycare' is a very broad church. You can take them wherever you want with your other traits and keep the woolshedding. A lot of mine are Texel/Easycare composites to varying degrees. They don't all need to look like a plain welsh mountain without the wool.

 

[Ysgythan]

Even if those easycares are stocked a lot tighter than some breeds might be, giving higher output per ha?

yes because you can stock good stuff tightly.

 

[neilo]

yes because you can stock good stuff tightly.

That depends how you define ‘good stuff’ I suppose.

 

[Ysgythan]

and Possibly higher profit margin,

I really dont understand the Dislike some people have with shedding breeds ,
even when they have never had any,
At least try a few out,
You may End up converting to the “dark side”

I’ve never owned a Lada.

 

[Ysgythan]

That depends how you define ‘good stuff’ I suppose.

yes and that’s subjective and personal so I can definitely say Easycares are not good

 

[glensman]

yes and that’s subjective and personal so I can definitely say Easycares are not good

Good stuff in commercial terms?

 

[Ysgythan]

Good stuff in commercial terms?

Good for past it old codgers who want to hold on to their IHT APR.

 

[neilo]

Good for past it old codgers who want to hold on to their IHT APR.

.....and ‘shepherdlessers’ of course.

I would see them as a way of running more sheep per man (me).

 

[unlacedgecko]

.....and ‘shepherdlessers’ of course.

I would see them as a way of running more sheep per man (me).

thank you for including me. I was going to protest about my lack of IHT APR.

 

[Ysgythan]

thank you for including me. I was going to protest about my lack of IHT APR.

thing is it’s a matter of time until Sunak abolishes APR anyway so don’t worry.

 

[glensman]

Good for past it old codgers who want to hold on to their IHT APR.

Or alternatively farmers who are profit focussed and are capable of using a calculator.

 

[Ysgythan]

Or alternatively farmers who are profit focussed and are capable of using a calculator.

don’t confuse fetishising minimal costs with being profit focussed.

 

[M-J-G]

That would be true, as long as ‘treated the same’ includes stocking rate, ability to winter cheaply and have the longevity to reduce replacement costs.
If those heavier lambs come at a cost of running bigger ewes that can be stocked less heavily, or require feeding through the winter, then they will pull down output per ha.

There is a reason that all those ‘efficient’ breeds are generally around 60kg or so, here or in NZ.

If you get lambs away before prices slip the fastest lambs away are king IMO