BTV 8 moving North from France again

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
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East Sussex
I've a quote for 80p a dose from our vet. Is it just the breeding stock that need to be vaccinated - what about lambs (goat kids in my case) that won't be ready for slaughter till early 2017?

I can't help there but do be aware there is a potential for up to 2 degree Celsius temperature rise and the effect on male fertility.
 

romneymarsh

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Romney Marsh
I've a quote for 80p a dose from our vet. Is it just the breeding stock that need to be vaccinated - what about lambs (goat kids in my case) that won't be ready for slaughter till early 2017?

Whats your vet say? Your quote is 30% cheaper than mine?

My vet is saying anything going to Ram and rams so not this years off spring. . This is for a November tupped April lambing flock. Its another expense I would rather not have . Its easy to do the sums to justify it in a worse case scenario and that's why its being described as an insurance type treatment.. But its not here yet and the disease is just so unpredictable in its manifestation ranging from no symptoms to death. There is time for me to wait and see but for early lambers the pressure is on to decide. A no brainer for dairy I would have thought .
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
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East Sussex
Would be interested to hear the suckler view on this. Not planning to do anything just yet.

Edit: from the data sheet:

The safety and efficacy of the vaccine has not been established in breeding males. In these categories of animals the vaccine should be used only according to the benefit/risk assessment by the responsible veterinarian and/or the national Competent Authorities, depending on the current vaccination policies against BTV.
 

Six Dogs

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Wiltshire
I went to the JAB meeting at Shaftesbury ,very poor attendance guess that may indicate low priority in farmers mind?
Our vets are quoting £1-06 dose,too late for my early lambers but considering main Nov tupping group
Would like to see some up to date BTV activity in France as heard it had slowed right down?
 

Frank-the-Wool

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Livestock Farmer
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East Sussex
Looking at the weather forecast for the south of England for the coming week things could change very quickly! Hope I am wrong.

Are we not in a very different scenario to where we were the last time we had BTV 8?

The last time there was no vaccine at all and very little knowledge of the disease and how it would react in a European situation where animal health should be under better control.

We were told that if you could achieve high levels of vaccination then the disease would effectively stop as there were insufficient hosts for the Midges to feed on and then spread. I am presuming (hopefully) that most livestock in France will now have been vaccinated. If not perhaps someone will tell me.
From the centre of the outbreak going northwards there are very few ruminant animals in that part of France compared with the last time the disease was rampant when it was established in the low countries which have a massive density of cattle.

While I am sure there is still a high risk of it arriving here because of where it is, at the present the risk is lower than the last time we had it. Looking at the latest OIE map there have only been 2 cases in France recently and they have been from surveillance testing, both of which are in Central France.

I would admit that as an insurance policy high risk animals will probably be best vaccinated as the disease can spread very rapidly, blanket vaccination of livestock is unlikely to happen.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Are we not in a very different scenario to where we were the last time we had BTV 8?

The last time there was no vaccine at all and very little knowledge of the disease and how it would react in a European situation where animal health should be under better control.

We were told that if you could achieve high levels of vaccination then the disease would effectively stop as there were insufficient hosts for the Midges to feed on and then spread. I am presuming (hopefully) that most livestock in France will now have been vaccinated. If not perhaps someone will tell me.
From the centre of the outbreak going northwards there are very few ruminant animals in that part of France compared with the last time the disease was rampant when it was established in the low countries which have a massive density of cattle.

While I am sure there is still a high risk of it arriving here because of where it is, at the present the risk is lower than the last time we had it. Looking at the latest OIE map there have only been 2 cases in France recently and they have been from surveillance testing, both of which are in Central France.

I would admit that as an insurance policy high risk animals will probably be best vaccinated as the disease can spread very rapidly, blanket vaccination of livestock is unlikely to happen.

The last I heard it was < 15% of adult animals have been vaccinated. I also think there is a question mark over that as the amount of vaccine dispensed doesn't tally with the number of animals done, suggesting some farmers have only given one dose instead of two:banghead: We only vaccinate animals going for export and I don't have any intention of changing that.
 

romneymarsh

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Romney Marsh
The weather forecast seems to show higher temps and winds from the SE which will move midges toward the Dairy areas of Brittany. Btv infection in that area would be a threat to SW UK
 

soilsaver

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bucks uk
The last I heard it was < 15% of adult animals have been vaccinated. I also think there is a question mark over that as the amount of vaccine dispensed doesn't tally with the number of animals done, suggesting some farmers have only given one dose instead of two:banghead: We only vaccinate animals going for export and I don't have any intention of changing that.
 

soilsaver

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bucks uk
I am no expert but surely the midge have hot wind on their side thay would not be stopping for a snack and a nights stay in Britney, they will arrive just a bit hungry !
 

Tim W

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Wiltshire
Have started the process with my rams --- not sure what the risks really are as it is very hard to quantify (as is anything to do with the weather!) but better safe than sorry especially if you are selling breeding stock
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
From an email received yesterday.................

BLUETONGUE UPDATE


This was the a recent newsletter from the Sheep Veterinary Society


“As I write the latest news from the continent is somewhat reassuring. The number of positive cases in France is reducing and the level of viraemia in these cases is also falling. This should make infection of midges less likely and the weather although disappointing for a summer holiday is helping to control the midge population. Their protection zone has not grown appreciably for months. Belgium is using a national disease fund established by the industry with government help (a lesson for us there) to vaccinate all ruminants. This will be a wonderful buffer reducing the chances of infected midges of either reaching their channel coast or Holland. Germany is making decisions on vaccination on a region by region basis with Southern Germany also threatened by BTV4. However, this situation can change rapidly and we are delighted that we now have two licensed vaccines available to protect stock from Bluetongue 8.


We have been involved in the JAB campaign to inform producers of the risk of BTV8 entering the country and to promote the uptake of vaccine to protect cattle and sheep. Events have been held around the south of England which of course is in the front line of battle against Bluetongue becoming established in this country.”
 

yellowbelly

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N.Lincs
This has all gone quiet hasn't it...
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