Building a house

[Bossfarmer]

Looking to build a new farmhouse but want to keep it seperate from the main business and without a tie, any ideas on how i can do this? We only have 1 house on 1300 acres and and retired parents are in it

 

[Bossfarmer]

I currently live off farm the sale from this house will fund it

 

[Dragon]

Unusual creative eco houses do seem to pop up in the middle of nowhere seemingly very easy through planning.

 

[Turra farmer]

Looking to build a new farmhouse but want to keep it seperate from the main business and without a tie, any ideas on how i can do this? We only have 1 house on 1300 acres and and retired parents are in it

Will need to be tied unless there is specific policy to allow houses in the countryside , ( ribbon development etc ) But tie can be lifted in 10 years ,

Or put small bit of land , min for a holding number , and have it tied to say 10 acres , ?

 

[stablegirl]

Will need to be tied unless there is specific policy to allow houses in the countryside , ( ribbon development etc ) But tie can be lifted in 10 years ,

Or put small bit of land , min for a holding number , and have it tied to say 10 acres , ?

Not sure on justifying a need on the small acreage but its a clever idea.

If the need is genuinely for what your saying just build what you want where you want with an ag tie and worry about it in 10/15/25 years time.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Will need to be tied unless there is specific policy to allow houses in the countryside , ( ribbon development etc ) But tie can be lifted in 10 years ,

Or put small bit of land , min for a holding number , and have it tied to say 10 acres , ?

Is there no way i could get round the tie? Ive plenty of bits i could put a house even if its at a far out field or next a row of cottages(which used to belong to farm previous owner sold them)

 

[phillipe]

Ask your local planners ,how we we to know ?what circumstances ?whats the local development plan ?

 

[Steevo]

Is there no way i could get round the tie? Ive plenty of bits i could put a house even if its at a far out field or next a row of cottages(which used to belong to farm previous owner sold them)

If you’re looking to build a new farmhouse, why the desire to “get round” the tie?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Ask your local planners ,how we we to know ?what circumstances ?whats the local development plan ?

looking into it, does anyone know the rough cost of putting electric from powerline 500 yards away to the plot?

 

[Bossfarmer]

If you’re looking to build a new farmhouse, why the desire to “get round” the tie?

the reason being it would be very restrictive if i decided to sell it in the future, also its my own personal money between myself and wife wheras the farm is a partnership id like to keep it seperate

 

[Still Farming]

Not sure on justifying a need on the small acreage but its a clever idea.

If the need is genuinely for what your saying just build what you want where you want with an ag tie and worry about it in 10/15/25 years time.

It be good if only that simple maybe ?

 

[Steevo]

the reason being it would be very restrictive if i decided to sell it in the future

Isn’t that rather the point of them? A farm dwelling is a special concession granted for agriculture where there is a demonstrated need for it.

 

[Still Farming]

looking into it, does anyone know the rough cost of putting electric from powerline 500 yards away to the plot?

10k upwards

 

[Donkey Oaty]

Agricultural ties are no longer imposed in Aberdeenshire. They are not enforceable apparently so they have abandoned them. I would think it is the same in Perthshire. Speak to your local planning office.

 

[Bojangles]

I went through the process in the north east and had to put a tie on it a few years ago.
Unless you can find a pile of stones anywhere on the farm that was once a Cottage?
Any pile of stones will do as long as you can show it had a chimney stack at some point. Then you are in business!

 

[del_boy]

Just built a new farm house finished last year. One of the restrictions to get planning was it had to have a tie, which didnt bother me as its part of the farm which it was intended for. I think you'd be struggling to get planning without a tie but its always worth asking and trying.
Electric is "name there price" usually, our 1st quote was £24k, after getting them out and looking and agreeing to me digging the trench we got it down to £1700, needless to say i paid that straight away without asking questions as im sure they made a mistake!

 

[Donkey Oaty]

My experience as a member of the local community council was that the policy on Ag ties changed about a year ago on advice from the Scottish Govt.

 

[chaffcutter]

Go and meet the local planners for an informal chat, much better to find out what sort of house they might consider suitable on the site for example before you start the formal application process, also you can find out if they would like landscaping etc to minimise impact on the land form.

 

[David.]

If you do not sell the property and actually want to live in it, a tie is surely an advantage, farmhouse so can get back 70% of any vat paid on build, lower Council Tax banding, lower valuation in your estate etc.

 

[Bossfarmer]

If you do not sell the property and actually want to live in it, a tie is surely an advantage, farmhouse so can get back 70% of any vat paid on build, lower Council Tax banding, lower valuation in your estate etc.

theres a good chance it will be left to pay out a non farming child in the future so id like it to be free of any ties if possible