Building decent roadways between sheds.

[X344chap]

Hi - i need to sort out the roadways between some sheds in a field. - its heavy clay soil and when it rains the ground becomes the somme with huge muddy ruts. It dries out eventually and a run with the roller and harrows in the summer levels it. Its had some bags of type 1 put down over the years but the clay mud just keeps rising in the wet.

Whats the best way to provide a long term fix for this - is it to scrape the mud again down to hard standing and use some sort of fabric stuff? Just keep tipping type 1 onto it and it will eventually harden up?

Any help gratefully appreciated.

 

[Timbo]

Readymix. £20k grant currently available.

 

[steveR]

Hi - i need to sort out the roadways between some sheds in a field. - its heavy clay soil and when it rains the ground becomes the somme with huge muddy ruts. It dries out eventually and a run with the roller and harrows in the summer levels it. Its had some bags of type 1 put down over the years but the clay mud just keeps rising in the wet.

Whats the best way to provide a long term fix for this - is it to scrape the mud again down to hard standing and use some sort of fabric stuff? Just keep tipping type 1 onto it and it will eventually harden up?

Any help gratefully appreciated.

Putting a membrane down on the dry subsoil will help. BUT Type One is a waste of time IME, you need some crushed rubble or similiar as a base material on the membrane, then MOT on top. Get it above the surrounding ground level and you can get the water off it too.

Concrete as @Timbo suggests is great, but expensive and lots of hoops to be jumped through, AND you will still ned to do all the above!!

 

[harrow]

Hi - i need to sort out the roadways between some sheds in a field. - its heavy clay soil and when it rains the ground becomes the somme with huge muddy ruts. It dries out eventually and a run with the roller and harrows in the summer levels it. Its had some bags of type 1 put down over the years but the clay mud just keeps rising in the wet.

Whats the best way to provide a long term fix for this - is it to scrape the mud again down to hard standing and use some sort of fabric stuff? Just keep tipping type 1 onto it and it will eventually harden up?

Any help gratefully appreciated.

It sounds like top it up with crushed concrete or demolition hardcore, take any deliveries that you can get for free.

 

[Clive]

Readymix. £20k grant currently available.

whose doing grants for concrete ?

 

[steveR]

It sounds like top it up with crushed concrete or demolition hardcore, take any deliveries that you can get for free.

Pigs might fly.... The supply has pretty well dried up as far as I am concerned around here... The hardstandings of the old beet factory at Allscott were crushed and all used on the redevelopment! HUGE piles of lovely crush...

 

[steveR]

whose doing grants for concrete ?

Mid Tier Capital Grants in CSF areas.

 

[Sid]

whose doing grants for concrete ?

Your not missing out are you?

Have to be in priority area, I am a stones throw outside.

Magic maps has areas on it.

 

[Timbo]

whose doing grants for concrete ?

Natural england

 

[Netherfield]

There's a mountain of crushed material here, transport could be a killer though.

 

[HarryB97]

Dig it out to 2-3 foot deep depending on the load you are expecting it to carry. Terram in the bottom, a foot or two of large hardcore like a broken up concrete floor from a shed or 4 inch crushed limestone if you are buying in. Blind it off with a few inches of type one to get the right levels beneath the shutters and then 6-8 inches on concrete with fibres and mesh depending on the load. You coud miss out the concrete if you cant afford it at the minute. You can't skimp on hardcore though as the base is the most important bit, roll it well!

 

[Clive]

Your not missing out are you?

Have to be in priority area, I am a stones throw outside.

Magic maps has areas on it.

probably missing out (usually do ! putting a lot of concrete down at the moment, this was the first pour this week

 

[Sid]

probably missing out (usually do ! putting a lot of concrete down at the moment, this was the first pour this week

Sometimes you can get lucky!
2013 we were going to concrete around 2 sheds, but couldn't as too wet.
2014 we entered a Catchment sensitive area, we concreted around sheds, cover in loading area and slurry store.
2015 came out of Catchment area again.

Luck of the draw!

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Dig it out to 2-3 foot deep depending on the load you are expecting it to carry. Terram in the bottom, a foot or two of large hardcore like a broken up concrete floor from a shed or 4 inch crushed limestone if you are buying in. Blind it off with a few inches of type one to get the right levels beneath the shutters and then 6-8 inches on concrete with fibres and mesh depending on the load. You coud miss out the concrete if you cant afford it at the minute. You can't skimp on hardcore though as the base is the most important bit, roll it well!

2-3 feet!? That won’t sink in a hurry!

350 mm is more common But it does depend on ground conditions

 

[HarryB97]

probably missing out (usually do ! putting a lot of concrete down at the moment, this was the first pour this week

We need a thread about this project it looks very exciting

 

[Doing it for the kids]

My guess is non ag related!?

 

[Clive]

My guess is non ag related!?

no its ag storage/ yard space

 

[Gordy1]

Have the same problem here, keep rolling stone in but the heavy clay just rises to the top in the wet winter days & like concrete in the dry summer days......when we get them, should really dig it all out & put a membrane down like you should do!!.

 

[Formatted]

There's a mountain of crushed material here, transport could be a killer though.

Want to rent that out?

 

[Netherfield]

Want to rent that out?

All gone now, that's why there's a big pile of crushed concrete, soon to be houses on it.

Not mine anyway.