Bull pens and Handling system.

Pringles

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Location
West Fife
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After a lifetime of handling cattle with "exhaust pipe gates" and pallets we have taken the plunge!

We gave the order to John Thorburn & Sons, who have been great to work with throughout the whole process.

The crush will be replaced when we have saved up enough pennies to upgrade to one with a weighing system.
 

Sussex Martin

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Location
Burham Kent
Wow, certainly a piggy bank buster there but looks absolutely fantastic. It should be a pleasure to work with your bulls now instead of a chore. A good reference point for anyone planning to do the same, well done(y).
 

Pringles

Member
Location
West Fife
Thanks folks. Yes it certainly has smashed the piggybank!!

We have always just put the bull's in with fattening bullocks during past winters but they end up as fat as butter and generally are a pita when bedding up and drawing fat cattle for market. So we are hoping to manage them a bit better from now on!

We have used the feed passage for our cubicles as our handling pen and lifted the crush in with the forklift whenever we needed to do any cattle work, so things ended up being "put off " until absolutely necessary!

Not used the race yet, but put 2 bulls in pens yesterday and they seem to have settled in fine.
 

Pringles

Member
Location
West Fife
Pan mixer, No these are not refuge slots, well I certainly can't get through!!
They actually fill the gap to allow the gates to close the bull's into the back or front section, the shed is 45 feet wide to give us slightly more length in the handling race.

Turboman, Yes we considered galvanising but the extra cost paid for concreting the floor (providing concrete, not laying) so it was an easy choice. It might have been thought about a bit more if it was outdoors.
 

Pan mixer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Pan mixer, No these are not refuge slots, well I certainly can't get through!!
They actually fill the gap to allow the gates to close the bull's into the back or front section, the shed is 45 feet wide to give us slightly more length in the handling race.

Turboman, Yes we considered galvanising but the extra cost paid for concreting the floor (providing concrete, not laying) so it was an easy choice. It might have been thought about a bit more if it was outdoors.
It was just that I am building some pens that will have a few steers with the bull (we don't feed cake anywayso the bull doesn't get too fit) and I always design escape slots or a refuge, many neighbours say that I make them too thin at 11 inches - but many of my neighbours are arable farmers.
 

jamesy

Member
Location
Orkney
It was just that I am building some pens that will have a few steers with the bull (we don't feed cake anywayso the bull doesn't get too fit) and I always design escape slots or a refuge, many neighbours say that I make them too thin at 11 inches - but many of my neighbours are arable farmers.

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tr250

Member
Location
Northants
It was just that I am building some pens that will have a few steers with the bull (we don't feed cake anywayso the bull doesn't get too fit) and I always design escape slots or a refuge, many neighbours say that I make them too thin at 11 inches - but many of my neighbours are arable farmers.
How do they manage to fit into their range rovers
 

Pringles

Member
Location
West Fife
Pan mixer, The refuge slots are 300 mm. So I think that you are about right with 11 inches.

I am no "arable farmer" but definitely wouldn't want them to be any narrower!!

Sheperd12,

The bull pens are just over 11 feet wide by 20 feet deep.
 

dannewhouse

Member
Location
huddersfield
planning a very similar race have you used full width gates on the wide passage ie 8ft square pens so as with your bull pens you are always behind a gate and if cattle are pushing back cant go anywhere just let gate come back to post.
IAE races always show 2x4ft gates with centre post this looks a pain to me, can see how it may be good if just letting 1 8ft square pen through at 1ce but how do you only get 4 cattle to the pen at 1ce?
how do you find it for cattle coming back down (and what cattle you handling) if you put say 20-25 in the race at 1ce can you push them up from the back at 1ce or do you have to use the curved pen every time?

I plan to handle 25 at 1ce and planning 3 8ft square pens + curved forcing penand exactly as your race bend it away from wall for crush access.
do you find they back up at all in the narrow bit I see you have a sliding door at the back is this used a lot? would you advise any of the non return gadgets available. we plan a sliding door near crush to stop cattle flow for say AI debating whether to put it on the crush or like 3ft back and create a kiosk may not have crush rear door fancying rotating rump bar for the non moovers to shove them in definitely a kiosk style access at back of crush <want a sliding door as hinged my cattle go for you with head so hard to latch kiosk sometimes to be safe.
 

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