Business challenges post Brexit.

[Henarar]

correct about dairy farmers I was speaking to a few at the weekend and they cant wait to take on the ground suckler/sheep farmers currently farm, there subs are only worth 1ppl to many of them

you best get pulling tits then if that's where the money is
not long ago they were moaning they were all going bust

 

[Muck Spreader]

I stopped counting after a while, but it was three times in the first nine pages. I did notice they said it twice in one page not much afterwards.

I disagree that the government are backing away from leaving. The more I read, particularly from the EU side, the more I think there will be no agreement reached and the UK exits two years after the notification without any agreements. I suspect that is precisely what those in power in the EU want to happen.

Can you tell me what the EU has offered you on a personal basis regarding your residence in France? You will not be an EU citizen in March 2019, so what is going to happen to you and yours?

As I have previously posted it does not bother me in the slightest. Either Portugal is happy that I continue to live here or I move elsewhere. My wife sort of hopes we are pushed back to Scotland sooner rather than later, but from a practical point of view, it would be better if we choose the timing of that rather than have someone else decide the timeframe.

Yes I have to agree with you, no extension. The EU has stated the UK leaves on the 30 of March 2019 and there can't be any extensions as the UK would have to host EU parliamentary elections in May 2019 which they wouldn't be able to do.

 

[Walterp]

You are getting worse. The Tory party, headed by the then PM, went to great lengths to try to persuade everyone to vote Remain.

At least learn something before spouting out such rubbish as "Brexit is a Tory proposal".

The referendum vote divided along Party lines, with Tory-voting 'leave' voters at 58% of the 'leave' vote and Labour 'leave' supporters at 36%.

(Since his resignation David Cameron is on record as suggesting that he is 'leave' inclined.)

The stats explain why the Tory party is solidly behind Brexit, whilst Labour is more ambivalent because the majority of their supporters see the merits of remaining in the EU.

The implication is that Mr Corbyn has leeway to alter his position in the light of developments, whilst the Tories have no leeway at all.

 

[RobFZS]

The referendum vote divided along Party lines, with Tory-voting 'leave' voters at 58% of the 'leave' vote and Labour supporters at 36%.

Since his resignation David Cameron is on record as suggesting that he is 'leave' inclined.

I'm not getting worse, I'm getting better-informed.

Link to this?

Corbyn is a bennite Eurosceptic who has always campaigned against the eu as he see's it as a capitalist club ,labour have no policy on brexit

 

[Ashtree]

Very succinct article here on the future of global trade.
Key takeaways!
1. USA giving up it's leadership role with it's
new Trump trade policies.
2. EU best positioned to assume the global
leadership role in setting trade standards
and policies!
3. Big trading blocks determine the final
outcome of trade negotiations. Up steps
EU, Japan, China etc.
4. Britain got a mention somewhere in the
footnotes. A rule taker seemingly.



Europe seeks to set global trade rules after Trump steps back
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-trade-analysis-idUKKBN1AC0KV

 

[rob1]

The referendum vote divided along Party lines, with Tory-voting 'leave' voters at 58% of the 'leave' vote and Labour 'leave' supporters at 36%.

(Since his resignation David Cameron is on record as suggesting that he is 'leave' inclined.)

The stats explain why the Tory party is solidly behind Brexit, whilst Labour is more ambivalent because the majority of their supporters see the merits of remaining in the EU.

The implication is that Mr Corbyn has leeway to alter his position in the light of developments, whilst the Tories have no leeway at all.

How many have you asked ? Both parties have huge differences on europe,always have always will

 

[Walterp]

How many have you asked ? Both parties have huge differences on europe,always have always will

The stats I quote are all from the most complete and thorough polling analysis available, the Nat Cen report.

It provides a host of fascinating details.

 

[RobFZS]

Very succinct article here on the future of global trade.
Key takeaways!
1. USA giving up it's leadership role with it's
new Trump trade policies.
2. EU best positioned to assume the global
leadership role in setting trade standards
and policies!
3. Big trading blocks determine the final
outcome of trade negotiations. Up steps
EU, Japan, China etc.
4. Britain got a mention somewhere in the
footnotes. A rule taker seemingly.



Europe seeks to set global trade rules after Trump steps back
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-trade-analysis-idUKKBN1AC0KV

Japan has adopted UNECE car standards where individual countries have very little say over while in a trade block, while countries such as Norway sit at the table in their own right to shape the regulations and standards in their image.


http://peterjnorth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/the-smoke-and-mirrors-of-global.html << READ.

 

[Ashtree]

Japan has adopted UNECE car standards where individual countries have very little say over while in a trade block, while countries such as Norway sit at the table in their own right to shape the regulations and standards in their image.


http://peterjnorth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/the-smoke-and-mirrors-of-global.html << READ.

But Japan has recently agreed to realign its car industry standards with EU standards. By product I guess of new EU trade deal.

Yes of course individual countries get to sit at the negotiating tables. Don't mean they get to have a significant sway on outcomes though. Key point as I keep reminding folks on here is that trade rules, regulations and standards get decided upon and implemented by trade blocks in direct proportions to their GDP .

Remind me of any significant global or regional standard which is based on Norwegian domestic standards.

Cod liver oil maybe, but can't be much else now can there?

I reckon you are a smart bloke. I'm pretty sure you are scratching your head at the way this thing is headed.

 

[rob1]

The stats I quote are all from the most complete and thorough polling analysis available, the Nat Cen report.

It provides a host of fascinating details.

Dont know a lot about them and where they pick their samples, but if you look at a voting map by area for the GE and the referendum then most remain areas are blue and leave tend to be red, of course what you maybe saying is leave voters in labour areas are thick old racists and remain tory voters are the intelligent ones

 

[RobFZS]

But Japan has recently agreed to realign its car industry standards with EU standards. By product I guess of new EU trade deal.

Yes of course individual countries get to sit at the negotiating tables. Don't mean they get to have a significant sway on outcomes though. Key point as I keep reminding folks on here is that trade rules, regulations and standards get decided upon and implemented by trade blocks in direct proportions to their GDP .

Remind me of any significant global or regional standard which is based on Norwegian domestic standards.

Cod liver oil maybe, but can't be much else now can there?

I reckon you are a smart bloke. I'm pretty sure you are scratching your head at the way this thing is headed.

They're global standards, you don't get it, no one group owns the regulations, the EU has Adopted UNECE and ISO standards, it is not their own, it is global standards that everyone has had a say in.

Just like CODEX/WHO calls bs on the EU banning Chlorine chicken, it's based on fact, not protectionism

Amusingly, you pretty much proved why we're powerless in the eu to reform it!

 

[Old McDonald]

The referendum vote divided along Party lines, with Tory-voting 'leave' voters at 58% of the 'leave' vote and Labour 'leave' supporters at 36%.

(Since his resignation David Cameron is on record as suggesting that he is 'leave' inclined.)

The stats explain why the Tory party is solidly behind Brexit, whilst Labour is more ambivalent because the majority of their supporters see the merits of remaining in the EU.

The implication is that Mr Corbyn has leeway to alter his position in the light of developments, whilst the Tories have no leeway at all.

None of that supports your statement "Brexit is a Tory proposal".

 

[Old McDonald]

@Muck Spreader I am still interested to learn whether you have seen anything about whether the EU or France has made any offers about your residence in France after Brexit. I have seen nothing here, although I admit I have not been searching for the information.

Any British citizen posters living elsewhere in the EU? If so, have you heard anythign about your own particular situation? Has the EU or the country you live in made any offer to you?

 

[Ashtree]

@Muck Spreader I am still interested to learn whether you have seen anything about whether the EU or France has made any offers about your residence in France after Brexit. I have seen nothing here, although I admit I have not been searching for the information.

Any British citizen posters living elsewhere in the EU? If so, have you heard anythign about your own particular situation? Has the EU or the country you live in made any offer to you?

You should know by now that individual countries are not doing any solo runs. The outcome for all these things will be a subset of the final package. Nothing will be agreed until everything is agreed.
Barnier and his team have set the agend for the preamble to the substantive trade relationship. That part starts in October at the earliest if and only if EU are satisfied with the offer from Davis on the leaving bill and citizens rights.
No need to put the chairs to the back of the door just yet I imagine. Should get a few more olive harvests I expect.

 

[Old McDonald]

I know what the official position is. that does not stop individual countries from throwing out hints as to how they would like things to go, or even "leaking" advice on the overall EU stance.

As I have posted several times, I have no qualms whatsoever. Even if I was required to leave before I am ready, it would be an inconvenience to return to Scotland and not a disaster. It will not happen though. Countries like Portugal, and probably more so Spain, need the money we bring into the country, and the tax we pay.

 

[czechmate]

@Muck Spreader I am still interested to learn whether you have seen anything about whether the EU or France has made any offers about your residence in France after Brexit. I have seen nothing here, although I admit I have not been searching for the information.

Any British citizen posters living elsewhere in the EU? If so, have you heard anythign about your own particular situation? Has the EU or the country you live in made any offer to you?

Que sera, sera

 

[Old McDonald]

Que sera, sera

I know you claim not to be a drinker, but sometimes your late night posts do not reflect that. Why use some foreign phrase to give a non answer to a serious question?

You appear to be somewhat of a Jekyll and Hyde type character. At times you post very sensible thoughts and at others you post gibberish. That post is one of the latter - just in case you needed told.

 

[Walterp]

Dont know a lot about them and where they pick their samples, but if you look at a voting map by area for the GE and the referendum then most remain areas are blue and leave tend to be red, of course what you maybe saying is leave voters in labour areas are thick old racists and remain tory voters are the intelligent ones

I recommend the report, produced by a long-running social attitudes survey project.

Your understanding of the geographical spread of the 'leave' and 'remain' votes is inaccurate. This is addressed in the Nat Cen report.

The BBC have the top five 'leave' and 'remain' votes on a handy chart, which is instructive.

 

[czechmate]

I know you claim not to be a drinker, but sometimes your late night posts do not reflect that. Why use some foreign phrase to give a non answer to a serious question?

You appear to be somewhat of a Jekyll and Hyde type character. At times you post very sensible thoughts and at others you post gibberish. That post is one of the latter - just in case you needed told.

I assumed you had heard of the legend that is Doris Day

 

[Muck Spreader]

@Muck Spreader I am still interested to learn whether you have seen anything about whether the EU or France has made any offers about your residence in France after Brexit. I have seen nothing here, although I admit I have not been searching for the information.

Any British citizen posters living elsewhere in the EU? If so, have you heard anythign about your own particular situation? Has the EU or the country you live in made any offer to you?

I've not actually seen anything much. Some folk are applying for a "Carte de Séjour" but most are assuming that people who are already resident will get some form of EU visa or passport automatically. Their appear to be a lot of new arrivals from the UK recently, presumably to avoid any future residency problems.