Business to business warranty

[Dave W]

simplified story.
Farmer A sells a machine to farmer B in working order. Farmer A been using it all winter, has all the videos etc. Selling because it no longer suits his system.
viewing prior to sale didn't happen due to covid (which is a load of rubbish)
Farmer B after a week says machine isn't fit for purpose due to one function not working.

Does farmer B have a leg to stand on?

 

[d williams]

Never worked or stopped working??

 

[Chae1]

I always write sold as seen on any invoice to other farmers.

 

[Dave W]

Never worked or stopped working??

Bit of a grey area. Farmer B isn't remotely mechanically minded and never got it working

 

[Courier]

What function and might it be to do with the interface between Farmer B's tractor and said machine ?

But really farmer B doesn't have a leg to stand on unless Farmer A's main business is as a machinery dealer.

If rejected then Farmer B would be required to pay return carriage.

 

[masseybreaker]

very grey area dave but to stop a court case they both have to pick their dummies up and meet in the middle or they will both pay more in the longrun

 

[d williams]

Depends on value of sale but I would get what’s not working working if farmer b was just being thick and hadn’t turned on properly or something stupid I would expect him to cough up if genuinely not working put right then clears everything up

 

[Courier]

Perhaps Farmer A can get someone to go to Farmer B's farm and demonstrate machine as a matter of good faith - If there is no problem then Farmer B must bear half the cost.

 

[Dave W]

The issue will get resolved. I just wanted to clarify the legal standings.

Not fit for purpose seems to be the go to phrase and I'm not convinced it actually has any meaning in this case

 

[d williams]

The issue will get resolved. I just wanted to clarify the legal standings.

Not fit for purpose seems to be the go to phrase and I'm not convinced it actually has any meaning in this case

I wouldn’t be to worried to much about legal standing if working before then unless farmer b f**ked it then it can’t be to much wrong if he has f**ked it then it’s up to him to sort out

 

[Exfarmer]

It very much depends on the description given at sale. If it was described in perfect order, then the buyer is entitled to that . If it was described in working order the buyer can reasonably expect it work with in reason, but cannot quibble if the air con or radio does not work and the odd oil leak or light bulb out. , but with in reason as long as the Engine hydraulics gearbox etc work fine then no issue.

 

[Campbell]

Private [non business] sales between individuals have very little legal status, so most are based on trust.
I sold one of our cars privately last year, a good car with MOT and no know faults. The buyer took it for long test drive and a check over by his mate, he then went away, he came back two days later and bought it for my asking price. Week later I got several abusive calls and texts about car loosing coolant and not as I had described, wants his money back etc etc. I obviously declined his request and explained our agreed sale terms at the time. However.... what if the car had burst a coolant hose just as he drove away, what would I have done........??

 

[Robt]

The issue will get resolved. I just wanted to clarify the legal standings.

Not fit for purpose seems to be the go to phrase and I'm not convinced it actually has any meaning in this case

generally the whole ''not fit for purpose'' phrase is banded about far too much! in your case, it has no relevance!

 

[nosmokenopoke]

simplified story.
Farmer A sells a machine to farmer B in working order. Farmer A been using it all winter, has all the videos etc. Selling because it no longer suits his system.
viewing prior to sale didn't happen due to covid (which is a load of rubbish)
Farmer B after a week says machine isn't fit for purpose due to one function not working.

Does farmer B have a leg to stand on?

Farmer B should satisfy himself before paying it or doing deal, either that or pay dealer prices or farm sale prices. (Would say based only on moral if farmer A has sold it for top money and selling it as perfect working order, then he should be paying the repairs)
If farmer B has bought it at trade money then he needs to just get it sorted himself)

 

[thesilentone]

As said above, not fit for purpose means exactly that. However it is fit for purpose as farmer A has proved. It has simply broken down.

What was the ' one function not working ' their is a big difference between a light bulb and a major function in the interpretation of ' working order '

However, like most of these posts, we only have half a story, like what was agreed between farmer A and B at the point of sale ?

 

[Drillman]

Honesty is the best policy.

I had to send a machine back last year that I bought from a small independent dealer.

Im sure he cursed me at the time but did the right thing by me. I felt my position was justified and was honest with him about it.

Ive since done business with him again and would always recommend him to anyone.

 

[thesilentone]

Honesty is the best policy.

I had to send a machine back last year that I bought from a small independent dealer.

Im sure he cursed me at the time but did the right thing by me. I felt my position was justified and was honest with him about it.

Ive since done business with him again and would always recommend him to anyone.

Spot on, we are judged on how we deal with problems when they come along, and they do, like it or not.

 

[Dave W]

Honesty is the best policy.

I had to send a machine back last year that I bought from a small independent dealer.

Im sure he cursed me at the time but did the right thing by me. I felt my position was justified and was honest with him about it.

Ive since done business with him again and would always recommend him to anyone.

All because of a £5 hydraulic fitting

 

[Tarw Coch]

All because of a £5 hydraulic fitting

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