Buying a new machine and turning out to be 2 and a half years old?

[Cowabunga]

It’s new. It’s bought to do a job. That’s where my concerns would end.

Well yes, but a lot of money has changed hands and it will disappoint some people. I tend to be like you and if it saved me a few hundred and it does the job, I ain't worried about the build date of an implement. Someone said that they had a machine discounted at trade in due to a build date, but I've never seen that on an implement.

I have seen an used tractor rejected by a farmer because it was built two years before its registration date. A neighbour of mine actually. Not sure why they made a fuss about it because they bought it because it was the tractor they wanted, in immaculate condition, for a fair price, but there you go. It was not sold by me or any dealer I was involved with by the way, and if he'd kept it the value would have probably gone up over the next five years, not down.

 

[Cowabunga]

He said the 'new' 2018 machine was £13300 + vat

Yes, I've read that far now thanks.

 

[Wellytrack]

Well yes, but a lot of money has changed hands and it will disappoint some people. I tend to be like you and if it saved me a few hundred and it does the job, I ain't worried about the build date of an implement. Someone said that they had a machine discounted at trade in due to a build date, but I've never seen that on an implement.

I have seen an used tractor rejected by a farmer because it was built two years before its registration date. A neighbour of mine actually. Not sure why they made a fuss about it because they bought it because it was the tractor they wanted, in immaculate condition, for a fair price, but there you go. It was not sold be me or any dealer I was involved with by the way, and if he'd kept it the value would have probably gone up over the next five years, not down.

As I was reading it it’s still the current model and new.

There is much made on here about rising machine costs and waiting times, currently the way things are post Brexit getting things into the country if made overseas is a pain to put it mildly, even if it is made in mainland GB or Ireland the parts have to get there too, usually parts must also come from overseas.

This thread could just as easily be a moan fest about a dealer saying he had a new item in stock but a few years old, potential purchaser rocks up to the dealer only to be told it has since been sold since the inquiry was made and the new machine may be available within the next 2 months at £14500.

 

[Robt]

I would send it back, if it was a 2018 stamped on the chassis ID plate, unless there was a significant discount my way
If I am buying new, I am buying a 2021 or late 2020 machine and certainly not a 2018 one
Underhand

Please read my post. I said if it was sold to you as new but an 2018 plate then it’s new but not used!

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Yes, I've read that far now thanks.

You should always read from the beginning BEFORE commenting....otherwise your posts don't make sense

 

[v8willy]

Please read my post. I said if it was sold to you as new but an 2018 plate then it’s new but not used!

That used to be called "shop soiled".

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Please read my post. I said if it was sold to you as new but an 2018 plate then it’s new but not used!

No, it's not new
It's old stock and maybe have some technical model differences between it (a 2018 model) and the latest 2020/21 version of the same machine

 

[Robt]

No, it's not new
It's old stock and maybe have some technical model differences between it (a 2018 model) and the latest 2020/21 version of the same machine

Yes but if you were told it’s a MY2018 then nowt you can do. If you weren’t, then. That’s a whole different story

 

[Robt]

What actually is it?

 

[Hampton]

If it’s identical to a new machine then I wouldn’t worry.
About 10 years ago I rang a rep at a local ah dealers about a brand new straw chopper. I knew what Brandi wanted and he quoted me a price on a model that we wanted. I spoke to my dad and he said to get another quote. I rang another dealership who we had dealt with before and they quoted £500 less than original dealer but on a different model number.
I rang the manufacturer’s to find out what was the difference between the models and theysaid the machine from second dealer had superseded the one from first dealer and was a significant upgrade.
Shortly after I had a phone call from original dealer asking if I wanted his machine. I said no, it was too expensive and was an old model.
He was really put out that I didn’t want his old model and couldn’t understand why I was angry that he was trying to sell me it for more money than the latest model.
I put it down to experience and use a different salesman from that dealership now.

your situation sounds a little different though, but it would depend what it is.

 

[davidroberts30]

Think the only 2 things that would bother me are the warranty from date of purchase and the length of time I would be keeping it
If the dealer will warrant it for the alotted time and I was keeping it 10 years then dont worry

 

[Moors Lad]

If i sell hay or straw its described by type, quality and the year it was grown in.

With respect a machine "dusty" from being in a shed to my mind is as new, but over-year hay or straw will certainly have lost some feed value/palatability and to not inform a potential customer would be just dishonest in my book.
Point being it`s a slightly different situation.

Prices have gone up a fair bit since we bought our spreader which was paid in pounds shillings and pence
And not that long gone

Bl**dy `ell it was 1971 when 240 pennies to a pound became 100 !! ....... "and not that long gone"

 

[Bury the Trash]

With respect a machine "dusty" from being in a shed to my mind is as new, but over-year hay or straw will certainly have lost some feed value/palatability and to not inform a potential customer would be just dishonest in my book.
Point being it`s a slightly different situation.


Bl**dy `ell it was 1971 when 240 pennies to a pound became 100 !! ....... "and not that long gone"

could be just a simple schoolboy error of not mentioning it .

what they normally do is say its new but shopsioled even if its not damaged in any way. .

 

[Cowabunga]

You should always read from the beginning BEFORE commenting....otherwise your posts don't make sense

I write while replying to the post quoted above mine. If you cannot fathom that, which wouldn't surprise me, you have a problem.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

If it's as new, and same spec as the 2020 model... Stop feting and crack on. Private secondhand sale in 5 years won't care 1 bit if it's 2018 or 2020 only condition.

May even have a positive effect on resale if well looked after

eg a 7 year old machine that "damn near looks like new" vs a 5 y.o. machine in the same condition; the older machine "must have been looked after better/must have done less work" to some minds.

I wouldn't stress .
I would ask for a bit of a sweetener though, if you don't ask you don't get.

I bought our side-by-side as new old stock, but it was made known to us at the time - and we got a bit of free servicing thrown in, instead of a cashback.

 

[box]

Take it back and exchange it for a 2020 or 2021 machine if it bothers you that much. If you need to use the machine now and new stock isn't available any time soon, you're stuck with it. Sounds like you got it at a reasonable price.

I would expect a "new" machine to be 2020 at the oldest, anything older than this = discount or free sh!t.

 

[ollie989898]

The person selling it should be fudging straight with you, simple as that. You have nothing but your reputation and it can be damaged or even irrevocably destroyed in an instant, this kind of situation does not foster a sense of trust in people. I'd had said, got this 2018 model in the store, brand new, never been used. I will discount it to get it shifted, how is that?

 

[nick...]

We don’t know what the item is,unless I missed it but age would make a difference at point of sale to second owner I’d imagine.i know lots of plant has the next year on serial number plate from November onwards.dont know about cars but could be similar.a friend is buying a new Mercedes van at the moment and I’ve told him to get year of manufacture as it could be 2020 build.luckily for him they are built to order so will be 2021.i personally woukd not want a new tractor that was effectively a year old model but sold as new current year build.im guessing you could have a tractor or car that maybe 3 years old but registered as new on reg plate.should probably be sold as shop soiled and discounted accordingly.
nick...

 

[Fendt820]

Its not hard to get done. Only thing u need to know who to ask

Surly this is wrong on many levels

 

[Northeastfarmer]

It’s shop soiled so it should be discounted