Buying At Market for the 1st Time

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Do you know any farmers or dealers that go there as stated their'll ALL try to run you UP otherwise be it the selling farmers family ,other farmers ,dealers or Auctioneers themselves possibly?
 

Smith31

Member
I am off to Kirkby Stephen to buy around 20 Ewe Lambs in September. I am new to this. I have my holding number. I have sorted transport and vets. What else do I need to do before I try purchase? Reading a document for sales in Scotland, you need to join the APHA (animal & Plan Health Agency), Is this so in England?? I was also told to register with the sales company in Kirkby, which makes sense.

Anything else?

Any advice on the big day?!!! I am told it will be tricky taking on the major players :)

If you only need 20 buy of a farmer who is recommended or who you know and trust. Maybe even pay a bit extra and grade 20 of the best from bigger batch.

I have done just that this weekend, paid a little more and sorted out 30 Beltex ewes from a batch of 90 , the farmer will send the remainder to auction.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Bid slowly as well, slow the auctioneer down the slower they go the less they go up if rapid bidding numbers creep up , he will try to speed you up your job is to slow him down slow slow slower .

I tend to do the reverse, bidding back quickly & confidently when somebody dares to bid against me. Mind, I’ll stop just as quick too, and always try to be aware of who (if anybody) else is bidding.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I tend to do the reverse, bidding back quickly & confidently when somebody dares to bid against me. Mind, I’ll stop just as quick too, and always try to be aware of who (if anybody) else is bidding.

Good to be on the even numbers too - as a round hundred/ thousand/ ten is often a mental block to folks. Of course you can always foil this by planning to spend £x0 +1 bid.
 

muleman

Member
I am off to Kirkby Stephen to buy around 20 Ewe Lambs in September. I am new to this. I have my holding number. I have sorted transport and vets. What else do I need to do before I try purchase? Reading a document for sales in Scotland, you need to join the APHA (animal & Plan Health Agency), Is this so in England?? I was also told to register with the sales company in Kirkby, which makes sense.

Anything else?

Any advice on the big day?!!! I am told it will be tricky taking on the major players :)
Get them off me😂👍
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Bid slowly as well, slow the auctioneer down the slower they go the less they go up if rapid bidding numbers creep up , he will try to speed you up your job is to slow him down slow slow slower .
Bid like hell, like you are going to have it no matter what then suddenly stop that will pee them off
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Don't see how they can as long as you know what you have bid, if the auctioneer bids the wall and you stop then the wall has it

...For any experienced bidders.
I've seen a good auctioneer quickly mutter a few numbers and knock it down to an inexperienced bidder at their last bid and move on. It's a blood pumping moment and they are not sure what just happened but glad to be the proud new owner.


Bid like hell, like you are going to have it no matter what then suddenly stop that will pee them off

The opposite to an inexperienced bidder is the predictability of experience. The auctioneers know everyone's little foibles and strategies.
The best auctioneers have a good idea of the value and buyer of each lot before selling.
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I tend to do the reverse, bidding back quickly & confidently when somebody dares to bid against me. Mind, I’ll stop just as quick too, and always try to be aware of who (if anybody) else is bidding.
This 👆.

Bid confidently and calmly. But as @neilo says, drop out as fast as you bid.
The more you hang on looking/waiting the more likely the auctioneer is too move onto new man or knock them down while you still thinking. It's a trick of the trade to stop people trying too slow the sale down.
Personally it really annoys me when people wait until the hammer is in the way down before starting bidding. They always seem too moan more that they were missed too!
 
It's difficult this year but try and go to as many sales as you can beforehand to get a feel of how markets work. At the sale you are going to buy, get a shortlist of pens that would do and do what Neilo says

@neilo I tend to do the reverse, bidding back quickly & confidently when somebody dares to bid against me. Mind, I’ll stop just as quick too, and always try to be aware of who (if anybody) else is bidding.

Keep a straight face and stay calm!
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I've seen a good auctioneer quickly mutter a few numbers and knock it down to an inexperienced bidder at their last bid and move on. It's a blood pumping moment and they are not sure what just happened but glad to be the proud new owner.
And one buyer in particular would look at the auctioneer and say "you bought it you can bloody have it"
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
All these replies from such "experts" and not one has told you that once you have made your purchase that you should corner the vendor and demand luck money.

When I buy livestock at auction I always always circle the ones I like and cross out the ones I don't.
It's very easy in the heat of the moment to forget why you didn't like that certain beast or pen.
 

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