Buying cattle in spring selling in winter

[bobajob]

That’s good farming!

Someone is getting ha and ac mixed up

 

[Al R]

What is the other business if you plan on livestock “on the side” are you away for a few days with work or are you there so you can check/look at them everyday?
What sort of area?

 

[Morganwyn]

What is the other business if you plan on livestock “on the side” are you away for a few days with work or are you there so you can check/look at them everyday?
What sort of area?

Im a full time engineer but i can check and feed animals on the way and on the way back from work.

 

[Al R]

Im a full time engineer but i can check and feed animals on the way and on the way back from work.

Ok your not who I thought you were then, no taxi’s then?

 

[neilo]

• The BPS element was £68.74 per eligible hectare
• The greening element was £53.42 per eligible hectare
• The redistributive element is paid on the first 54 eligible hectares at a rate of £114.89/ha.

As above, that’s per hectare (2.47 acres).

I’m quite relieved there’s not a scheme I’ve missed. Even I might turn a profit with £230/ac in subsidies.

 

[jendan]

What sort of money are those hard sorts making there roughly?

They get anything and everything in there.From pot bellied little Angus(as shown on SML on here) at £100,right through to very good pure Lim young bulls at £1000 +. There used to be a good supply of Hols/Friesian steers at about 12 months old could be bought for £350-£380,but they have moved up a gear now to £400-£500 or so.

 

[topground]

Yes buy them in the spring when they are a fortune and sell them in the winter when they aren’t...

That’ll be why the advice was always not to marry a summer graziers daughter!

 

[Hilly]

keep em then, and buy some barley!

They are not dear enough.

 

[thorpe]

 

[Hilly]

Stores are not dear enough and finished ones are not dear enough

 

[thorpe]

fat got a long way to go to catch the store trade!

 

[DRC]

An added benefit is that dairy heifers are likely to be quiet and easy to handle - by you or the owner.

That isn't always the case with store cattle.

Depends on TB status and potential movement restrictions . Last think you want is to be stuck with in calf heifers

 

[CopperBeech]

That’s what im currently doing. But im going to have to be careful with inheritance tax. Aswell im leasing the land for £100per acer but if i farm it i can get £230 per acer through the welsh government and be able to apply for grants

Just buy some draft welshies with lambs at foot, graze over summer, kill the ewes and sell lambs store and take the free gov money. Low investment etc.

 

[Stockwell]

What do people reckon about buying decent cattle early, like now, and selling in the back end at 500 - 550kg ?
Could by now and turn out onto surplus stubble turnips which would keep them until mid April then onto very good young grass let’s. Sorry to high jack

 

[Timbo]

What do people reckon about buying decent cattle early, like now, and selling in the back end at 500 - 550kg ?
Could by now and turn out onto surplus stubble turnips which would keep them until mid April then onto very good young grass let’s. Sorry to high jack

Add abit of extra protein to your suggestion and might be workable

 

[Stockwell]

We’re not particularly good farmers , but can grow cattle incredibly well off grass, so makes sense to try and capitalise on that I think.
Sucklers at the moment but short on stock, in two minds wether to put more cows on or do as above and grow some store cattle on grass.

 

[Hilly]

fat got a long way to go to catch the store trade!

Seems to be always the same , sheep are same it’s weird but just seems the way it is, bloody shame margins were not just a little better for everyone in the chain.

 

[Fake it ‘til you make it]

We’re not particularly good farmers , but can grow cattle incredibly well off grass, so makes sense to try and capitalise on that I think.
Sucklers at the moment but short on stock, in two minds wether to put more cows on or do as above and grow some store cattle on grass.

Stores give you more flexibility, I would say. They can be cashed any time if you get short of grass/ other circumstances change.

 

[No wot]

Stores give you more flexibility, I would say. They can be cashed any time if you get short of grass/ other circumstances change.

Cattle ,flexibility, TB, TB , TB !!!

 

[Bob the beef]

Seems to be always the same , sheep are same it’s weird but just seems the way it is, bloody shame margins were not just a little better for everyone in the chain.

sold my first stores of the spring yesterday. AA blks at 245ppkg Char hfrs at 238 ppkg. Quite happy and then I look back and see I got that exact same price for stores February 2008