By what percentage have cover crops increased the bottom line of your business?

bankrupt

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Location
EX17/20
that is s lot - didn’t think anywhere other than Scotland got quite that much
Rainfall was the reason agreed by everyone involved here for the failure of two decades of diligent research which came with a considerable amount of financial investment from us.

To be more precise, it was the high rainfall combined with our difficult soil types - the shales tended to improve every year but the clays never did.


Alternatively, of course, it might have been that my management skills were just not up to it and that everyone involved was far too polite to tell that to me face to face.

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Adeptandy

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Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Our soils team are running a free webinar on the use of cover crops to reduce over-winter nitrate leaching losses and the impact on cash crop yields. Might be a good chance to ask a soil scientist what they think would be worth doing in your situation? https://www.adas.uk/News/webinar-cover-crops-research-into-practice
Webinar good (y) time of day, are you having a laugh, we're not all in the position to have our employee's out in the fields while we watch with a cuppa :rolleyes: :banghead:
 
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I will let you have a field rent free and I take the BPS for you to show me how it works. It is at the side of a disused clay pit and is approx 10' below a high tide, classed as Marine alluvium. It will yield 4t/ acre if it gets well subsoiled in a dry autumn and winter isnt too wet, if you leave it stubble over winter the cracks seal really tight and floods. A grass field next door was reseeded last year via a direct drill but flooding killed it all along with a spring sown crop, its 3rd reseed in june has now established.

Would you like a go?

I get what you mean about some soil types, we have some high mg clay and it works well on that! Yes I would have a go, I don't see why what we do would fail anyway. Hoping you get a dry autumn and winter so that 4t/ac crop survives and yields, isn't that risky in itself? I don't really mind what you do on your farm, I'm just commenting our experiences across the soil types we farm. I wouldn't try and drill a clay soil 'on the green' in spring time, and just putting a cover crop in with a disc drill in autumn doesn't work here, yet.
 

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I get what you mean about some soil types, we have some high mg clay and it works well on that! Yes I would have a go, I don't see why what we do would fail anyway. Hoping you get a dry autumn and winter so that 4t/ac crop survives and yields, isn't that risky in itself? I don't really mind what you do on your farm, I'm just commenting our experiences across the soil types we farm. I wouldn't try and drill a clay soil 'on the green' in spring time, and just putting a cover crop in with a disc drill in autumn doesn't work here, yet.
Thanks for the alternative/complementary view to Clive's
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Thanks for the alternative/complementary view to Clive's
It does work on heavier soil. But the management of the cover crop and drilling is often very different to what Clive would do on his lighter soils. I know Clive is a big mustard fan which from experience where on heavy simply produces more slugs.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Stewardship pays £114 Per ha for an overwinter cover
leaving spring cropping land without a cover wastes the free nitrogen over the winter
this year volunteers may mop some up
It depends on the gap between harvest and cold weather. Nothing seems to get time to establish up here.

They make sense in my opinion. The plants covering the bare stubble, protecting it from compaction from rain. Harvesting the winter sunshine, keeping the soil dry. Organic matter from incorporating green vegetation and roots.

Just never had any success personally.

I would rather sow a forage crop after winter barley and strip graze it over winter personally.
 

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