calf rearing questions

[Hummin-Cummins]

Sounds like you are doing a really good job and have a decent system in place so imo you are better off carrying on as you are for several reasons.

Only advantage would be no input costs,
They buy the calf, the milk replacer, the feed and any meds, all id have to do is feed them and and pay the cheque in the bank !

 

[gone up the hill]

Only advantage would be no input costs,
They buy the calf, the milk replacer, the feed and any meds, all id have to do is feed them and and pay the cheque in the bank !

But then you would have no control and basically would be a hired hand.

Better of doing what you already are.

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

Mainly the adlib...heifers, Angus', and adlib sounds a recipe for a dumpling

I think they'd probably turn out like that if u left them on it for to long once they get a bit of size and start eating a ruck load of it, but i get them off before they get to that stage.

Forgot to mention from the day they arrive they also have adlib good quality straw or average hay ( if its really good hay the little sh#*$ eat to much of it and go pop bellied)

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

But then you would have no control and basically would be a hired hand.

Better of doing what you already are.

Yep agreed!

Been looking at doing a load of angus bulls and taking them through to kill but will leave it alone till after lambing i think!!!

 

[gone up the hill]

Yep agreed!

Been looking at doing a load of angus bulls and taking them through to kill but will leave it alone till after lambing i think!!!

Why Angus as bulls?

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

Why Angus as bulls?

Bit of premium on them and seem to be able to get them a substantial amount less than continental x bulls also seem to eat a less than the blues or lims etc but i will stand to be corrected by anyone who has already tried this !!

H-C

 

[gone up the hill]

Bit of premium on them and seem to be able to get them a substantial amount less than continental x bulls also seem to eat a less than the blues or lims etc but i will stand to be corrected by anyone who has already tried this !!

H-C

What is the premium on them as bulls?

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

Did hear talk of 30 odd pence but will be doin some homework first

 

[gone up the hill]

Did hear talk of 30 odd pence but will be doin some homework first

Sounds to me you are talking about the named sire premium but that is only for heifers/ steers and not bulls.

 

[cooksey]

Wynnstay are involved with a scheme to rear and finish black and white bulls, they have a meeting in Oswestry tomorrow night to explain all.... looks good, too good I would say
Worth asking the question though.

is that by invitation if not where is it might be interested in going?

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

Sounds to me you are talking about the named sire premium but that is only for heifers/ steers and not bulls.

Yea was the named sire job but was talk of one or 2 paying it on bulls. I will have to investigate further!!

 

[gone up the hill]

Yea was the named sire job but was talk of one or 2 paying it on bulls. I will have to investigate further!!

You may be right but iv never heard of anyone paying it on bulls.

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

You may be right but iv never heard of anyone paying it on bulls.

I hadn't till end of last year mind so it may well be a load of bull &#%*+

 

[Sandpit Farm]

It may be worth tag and testing for BVD each calf. I think it's only £3 per calf with the management tags.

I read somewhere that batches of calves reared with a PI were 43% more prone to pneumonia so I guess it isn't the loss of the PI that causes the hit on any profit.

 

[gone up the hill]

I hadn't till end of last year mind so it may well be a load of bull &#%*+

I would be intrested to know who might be giving sire prem on angus bulls as I have some around,

Feel free to PM.

 

[Sandpit Farm]

I would be intrested to know who might be giving sire prem on angus bulls as I have some around,

Feel free to PM.

I'd be surprised as I understood that Bulls were in lower demand by all processors. Most people I know are castrating.

I also saw a presentation that suggested there would be a load of B/W bulls hitting the processors over the next 6 months (from BCMS data)

 

[gone up the hill]

I'd be surprised as I understood that Bulls were in lower demand by all processors. Most people I know are castrating.

I also saw a presentation that suggested there would be a load of B/W bulls hitting the processors over the next 6 months (from BCMS data)

TBH iv never heard of anyone giving a sire prem on angus bulls and that includes when the plants were falling over themselves to source bull meat.

Im not convinced there is that many B/W bulls around and will be coming out in the next 6 months, I think that is wishfull thinking on the plants side as beef cattle are going to get very short by the end of the summer looking at the numbers coming thru the stores rings the last few weeks.

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

I would be intrested to know who might be giving sire prem on angus bulls as I have some around,

Feel free to PM.

Will keep u posted on anything i find out!
Where do you send your bulls?

H-C

 

[Hummin-Cummins]

I'd be surprised as I understood that Bulls were in lower demand by all processors. Most people I know are castrating.

I also saw a presentation that suggested there would be a load of B/W bulls hitting the processors over the next 6 months (from BCMS data)

Was alot of cheap talk going around about a few processors not wanting bulls 12 months ago but was a big myth if u ask me, my neighbour has got 300 plus bulls an got the abattoir hounding him for some every week

Herefordshire

H-C

 

[Henery]

Oswestry area I think, best speak to Wynnstay, there was a steak dinner mentioned too.!

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