- Location
- Bedfordshire
Just trying to register calves but it won't let me input the numbers, I haven't got the tags yet, are the numbers registered once the tags are printed? Just thought the numbers would carry on from the previous sequence. TIA
Calf tag numbers
- Thread starter S J H
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M-J-G
Member
You can't use a number that you haven't got a tag for, because you're supposed to tag the calf before you register it.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Thank you, couldn't work it out.
M-J-G
Member
Why would anyone be caused to alter dates?
I think it's very sensible to prevent calves being registered before they are tagged.
It's a way of stopping the wrong ID going into the wrong calf when the tags arrive next month.
- Location
- Yorkshire
If you can't put the right tag in the right calf what chance do you have of registering it's correct date of birth when you get the tags.Why would anyone be caused to alter dates?
I think it's very sensible to prevent calves being registered before they are tagged.
It's a way of stopping the wrong ID going into the wrong calf when the tags arrive next month.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Did we not know the beast was in calf? Why not just be a bit more organised and have some tags on the shelf ready? It’s not like they’re a big investment outlay.
- Location
- Yorkshire
Yes I know how many cows I'm calving a year and add a few more for any twins. I can also get a new run of tags inside a week and replacements next day if ordered before about 3pm
Timbo
Member
- Location
- Gods County
Get the tags ordered sharpish and then the numbers will be available on BCMS for registration.
- Location
- Yorkshire
I think he's ordered them just waiting for them to deliver
M-J-G
Member
Agreed, but we're talking about farmers here and there are some that definately cannot be trusted.
If given an inch some will take a mile, and then they go into a batch of 30 or 40 cows and calves and just start tagging, and as long as it's the correct sex it will do.
The rules are set up as not to aid such situations. It's obviously not fool proof but a tracability system that allows animals to be allocated a tag which has not been manufactured yet would be open to a great deal of criticism I would imagine.
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Agree but the calves will be born whether you have tags or not so it is down to the farmer to keep a record. I don't carry tags round with me when I'm checking round cows I put tag number it will be date of birth breed sex and mother in my phone then I can get them in and tag a few at a time and separate them from the calvers
- Location
- Devon
I still don't fully understand why they won't let you order a triple set of tags, it would be so much easier, cheaper and efficient to have a spare for each.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I forgot to be honest, I thought I had a few left. Haven't ordered previously, as I didn't want to be left with a load if they all went to EID.
Please clarify why it is necessary officially to record the Dam of any calf. How nowadays does it improve either traceability or disease control.
On the same basis, why is it necessary to define the sex of the calf. It is the only? reason why passports are returned to BCMS, when the day we pick animals out fore sale, we discover that it's passport shows the wrong sex. Having to return it causes a waste of stamps and profanities.
The irony is that a castrated male is more like a feeding heifer than an entire bull.
M-J-G
Member
Passports won't exist soon anyway, so they won't have to be returned and not before time IMO.
Why record anything, in fact why tag at all?
Why put your mother's ID or your sex on your birth certificate?
But them's the rules, I have more to do than try to turn that tide, if you manage to change any of that, I'll be grateful.
Must admit I may be largely responsible for many of the wrong sex on passports! ! A while back and bit of tea spilt on laptop. Without realising when cursor was over male female option on registering calves it fluctuated and when put as male often came up female and vicar versa. Embarrassingly had 30 odd wrong sex stores in solid. I switched tag supplier to get free replacements as amazed how many old cows each tb test needed replacements. Wonder how long they would take ordering a replacement tag on young calves so you has an official third tag in early as mentioned above
- Location
- Hereford
When a cow has calved I take a photo of the cow (hopefully including her eartag) and calf then send the photo to my wife stating breed and male or female . She then writes it into the diary and registers it , gets the tag out ready ,writes the dams number on the back of the tag and then about a week later I tag them ........usually !!!!! If the cow is agitated then the calf doesn't get tagged until I can get it in somewhere .
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