Calving cameras, PTZ or 2x bullet

[BBE]

I'm in the process of installing cameras in two cattle sheds. I've got the option of a single PTZ or 2 fixed bullet cameras, one at either end of the shed. Which option would be best for monitoring calving?

 

[Scholsey]

PTZ

 

[JP1]

How big is the shed?

I'd be tempted for two bullet at diagonal opposite corners if it's say 80ft/100ft x 50ft

Don't get me wrong the latest PTZ is good now it has infrared for night time and for general observations it's great to zoom in on cattle / tags etc BUT if she's calving facing towards the camera you'll still be up there nerous if the water sca is out etc etc

 

[MDL POWERUP]

Got a £33 WiFi camera off eBay. Easy to install and does what it says it does (night vision, 1080p, sounds, zoom recording etc etc)

 

[Bullring]

I already had a shed with a Ptz camera in and I wanted some in another shed, I was offered advice to go for 2 bullet cameras by the salesman despite me really wanting another ptz, I Did put in 2 bullet cameras but it was never as good as the ptz I had in the other shed as I missed the zoom so I've since replaced them with another ptz like I should have done in the first place and it's miles better.

 

[taff]

For these cameras to work do you need to be within range of your house wifi or does it work if where the shed is you have mobile phone signal?

 

[MDL POWERUP]

For these cameras to work do you need to be within range of your house wifi or does it work if where the shed is you have mobile phone signal?

If you buy a 4g router and sim card (quite cheap) and place it somewhere in the shed you have mobile signal it works well. That's what I've done anyway.

 

[BBE]

For these cameras to work do you need to be within range of your house wifi or does it work if where the shed is you have mobile phone signal?

I've run cat 6 cables from camera locations back to a network switch (all runs under 90 meters) so will go for PoE cameras.

 

[BBE]

I guess the benefit of 2 bullet cameras is that you are covering the whole shed all the time. If the PTZ was pointing in the wrong direction and you wanted to go back and check something (calf suckling etc) this wouldn't be possible. Anyone had issues with this? Had a chap come and look and he recommended bullet but he does mostly security cameras. I'm leaning toward PTZ just want to know pros and cons of each.

 

[Dirtybootz]

Ptz but place it towards one end of the shed rather than the middle so you can leave it zoomed out to cover most of shed.

 

[BBE]

How big is the shed?

I'd be tempted for two bullet at diagonal opposite corners if it's say 80ft/100ft x 50ft

Don't get me wrong the latest PTZ is good now it has infrared for night time and for general observations it's great to zoom in on cattle / tags etc BUT if she's calving facing towards the camera you'll still be up there nerous if the water sca is out etc etc

One shed is 90ft x 75ft with central feed passage, we only calve at one side of passage. The other is part stone bays attached to a Dutch Barn, this one will have blind spots which ever option I go for.
I guess if I've got one calving I'll be up to check anyway, just want to reduce the number of times I have to get out of a nice warm bed for nothing!

 

[Fairweatherfarmer]

I was looking at 4g ptz. That's runs off 12v for security. Anyone got one. What solar panel would you need to keep the battery charged?

 

[Bullring]

If your shed is 90x75 I think you would be disappointed with bullet cameras if they were fixed, that’s a fair distance to cover even with 2, 45ft away from each one if the cow is in the middle of the shed. I have a Ptz in the middle of a 105x45 shed and I find it’s perfect for most things as you can zoom in and move it 360 degree, If the cow is at the end of the shed out of view of the nearest bullet camera how much are you going to see from 90ft away with the other camera?

 

[Paul E]

Why not 2x PTZ?
One at each end??

 

[BBE]

ot 2x PTZ?
One at each end??

Just trying to keep costs down really. Looking at Hikvision cameras and been quoted £500-600 for PTZ's. Guess I could start with 1 and of I'm not happy with coverage add another later.

 

[Dairyfarmerswife]

Got a £33 WiFi camera off eBay. Easy to install and does what it says it does (night vision, 1080p, sounds, zoom recording etc etc)

What cameras are they? We have Arlo for farm security and last year we moved them to the calving sheds but since an attempted break in last year I don't want to move them this year. Could add on more arlos but they are over £100 each...

 

[MDL POWERUP]

What cameras are they? We have Arlo for farm security and last year we moved them to the calving sheds but since an attempted break in last year I don't want to move them this year. Could add on more arlos but they are over £100 each...

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[Cluny]

Just trying to keep costs down really. Looking at Hikvision cameras and been quoted £500-600 for PTZ's. Guess I could start with 1 and of I'm not happy with coverage add another later.

I have a shed that is two 40x100 back to back and have a ptz right in the middle of the two sheds works a dream no blind spots and can zoom in to see what’s going on the one other thing that I find very helpful is sound it was an extra but well worth every penny listening while watching is really helpful. I can watch my calving she’d from anywhere I have a 4g signal on my phone can watch a cow calving and then watch to make sure it’s sooked in time. Another feature is if you have calving boxes in the shed you can prefix any box so the camera turns to whatever box you have preset. The camera has really changed my life.

 

[Cluny]

Just trying to keep costs down really. Looking at Hikvision cameras and been quoted £500-600 for PTZ's. Guess I could start with 1 and of I'm not happy with coverage add another later.

I have a shed that is two 40x100 back to back and have a ptz right in the middle of the two sheds works a dream no blind spots and can zoom in to see what’s going on the one other thing that I find very helpful is sound it was an extra but well worth every penny listening while watching is really helpful. I can watch my calving shed from anywhere I have a 4g signal on my phone, can watch a cow calving and then watch to make sure it’s sooked in time. Another feature is if you have calving boxes in the shed you can prefix any box so the camera turns to whatever box you have preset. The camera has really changed my life.

 

[bert]

I’ve got 4 bullet cameras covering 100x40,
so I get a lot of coverage over the shed, I wanted PTZ but the upload speed at the farm is very poor and because I live away it made it painful trying to move the camera when at home. So bullet cameras it had to be, still pleased with them.

also got 4 cameras over calving pens/little calving area. Really handy for seeing calves sucking etc. Got a permanent screen up in the farmhouse kitchen for mum and dad to look at, then I look at home on laptop or phone. Laptops better because of the better screen, these are screen shots off the phone