Can I spread fym on grass?

tr250

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Location
Northants
Can I spread fym on grass ley now? It won’t travel but assuming it would is it classed as high nitrogen I’m a bit confused with the new rules.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Can I spread fym on grass ley now? It won’t travel but assuming it would is it classed as high nitrogen I’m a bit confused with the new rules.

me to......not just muck spreading either....the whole regulation job is 'shifting sands' these days :rolleyes:

According to my NE mate, FYM is not "high nitrogen", but to be sure you would need an analysis...

Equally confused.... :(

Farmyard Manure does not contain readily available nitrogen, unlike Poultry manures, SLurry from any species and AD liquid digestate. Take a look at RB209 manures section where there is a sensible explanation of the difference between the manure types. And to answer the OP question, I would have not problem spreading FYM now, as you say subject to travelling conditions and possible surface run off if the field has a slope and watercourse at base of slope. it is still mid winter and early yet. Cheers.
 

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
Farmyard Manure does not contain readily available nitrogen, unlike Poultry manures, SLurry from any species and AD liquid digestate. Take a look at RB209 manures section where there is a sensible explanation of the difference between the manure types. And to answer the OP question, I would have not problem spreading FYM now, as you say subject to travelling conditions and possible surface run off if the field has a slope and watercourse at base of slope. it is still mid winter and early yet. Cheers.

but if we couldn't spread it the autumn how can we spread it now :scratchhead:
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
but if we couldn't spread it the autumn how can we spread it now :scratchhead:

Getting towards Spring. And the research data would indicate leaching losses are most from early Autumn application than mid to late winter and into Spring. Now is not ideal and I said would be best left for a few weeks, but now would be better from N losses perspective than last October. That is my understanding having sat through a few presentations from soil scientists a few years ago.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Ground here never been better to travel on if you wanted to spread anything.
For generations, muck was spread in winter to allow it time to get into the soil ready for Spring surge. It would take a biblical flood to wash proper FYM into a river.
However, slurry can go a long way in wet conditions and get into drains very quickly.
 

Wesley

Member
According to the EA chap i asked that was in here last week it’s fine to spread FYM if ground conditions/weather allows. He also said we were allowed to plough it down in the Autumn for cereals. I can only assume he’s right 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Pan mixer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
I put muck on some grassland a few years back, let us just say that the next spring not all the ewes survived the experience. Shan't be putting it on a spring grazing field again.

Ideal time is on a frost but I don't think that is allowed.

Slurry on a frost doesn't seem to pollute in the US, Andys lot at farm fixing and fabrication just spread the lot 'while the ground is so hard'.

I guess if you have 2000 + milkers 'the lot' is a fair bit.


Yet another unfair advantage other farmers have over us (and it will probably only get worse)
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
Getting towards Spring. And the research data would indicate leaching losses are most from early Autumn application than mid to late winter and into Spring. Now is not ideal and I said would be best left for a few weeks, but now would be better from N losses perspective than last October. That is my understanding having sat through a few presentations from soil scientists a few years ago.

there wern't any elephants at that meeting were there?




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Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I put muck on some grassland a few years back, let us just say that the next spring not all the ewes survived the experience. Shan't be putting it on a spring grazing field again.

Ideal time is on a frost but I don't think that is allowed.

Slurry on a frost doesn't seem to pollute in the US, Andys lot at farm fixing and fabrication just spread the lot 'while the ground is so hard'.

I guess if you have 2000 + milkers 'the lot' is a fair bit.


Yet another unfair advantage other farmers have over us (and it will probably only get worse)



 

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