Can you imagine the press if this happened to boris ?

[br jones]

BBC News - France's Macron loses majority as defectors form new party

France's Macron loses majority as defectors form new party

The French president's party loses seven MPs amid further signs of dissatisfaction in parliament.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[czechmate]

Looks like another Green Party. We already have one of those

 

[Derrick Hughes]

So we have between 30% and 50% of the population who hate the government in power at any given time, and I really mean hate , the press feed on that use that as their majority to justify what they say and do ,
Ad to that Brexit Revenge and you have a sad bitter combination

 

[Mek]

I’m not totally au fait with French politics but it seems the French realise they have a problem with antiquated systems of government and bureaucracy labour laws etc. but when someone,Macron in this case,tries to do something about it they are up in arms revolting. I’ll let someone else make the joke.

 

[neilo]

Didn’t the same happen here not long ago, forming Change UK, or whatever they were called? Where are they now?

 

[czechmate]

Didn’t the same happen here not long ago, forming Change UK, or whatever they were called? Where are they now?

Hmm, these defectors are leaving a new party...
To start a new party!
I do find I a bit confusing here, as there are so many parties- of course that also leads to lots of coalitions/cooperation but cooperation isn’t so unusual here.

 

[Ashtree]

Hitler and Goebbels and latterly Trump, would be so impressed by the rising venom, bile and hate for the free press, emanating from TFF.
It’s exactly the tool used by all three to create the fertile space necessary to suppress free press, free speech, and the holding of government to account.

Maybe now that Twitter have clipped Trumps wings, he might see TFF as a better platform to launch his fake news, and have conveniently a motley collection of like minded individuals on board to click the like button.

 

[Muck Spreader]

This has already happened to Boris and the UK had a shambolic six months which the press made the most of.

Forgot to say that interestingly the shambles didn't stop with a majority.

 

[Henarar]

Hitler and Goebbels and latterly Trump, would be so impressed by the rising venom, bile and hate for the free press, emanating from TFF.
It’s exactly the tool used by all three to create the fertile space necessary to suppress free press, free speech, and the holding of government to account.

Maybe now that Twitter have clipped Trumps wings, he might see TFF as a better platform to launch his fake news, and have conveniently a motley collection of like minded individuals on board to click the like button.

if they would ask sensible questions not just the same thing over and over and if they could manage not to break CV control rules like they are accusing others of doing they would be fine.
another way of looking at it would be that they don't report the news the just stir up venom bile and hate, hittler would be proud of them

 

[yellow belly]

if they would ask sensible questions not just the same thing over and over and if they could manage not to break CV control rules like they are accusing others of doing they would be fine.
another way of looking at it would be that they don't report the news the just stir up venom bile and hate, hittler would be proud of them

Most of us just ignore the press as a waste of time

 

[Ashtree]

if they would ask sensible questions not just the same thing over and over and if they could manage not to break CV control rules like they are accusing others of doing they would be fine.
another way of looking at it would be that they don't report the news the just stir up venom bile and hate, hittler would be proud of them

By sensible I guess you mean deferential? Exactly the opposite of what a free press should do!!
Watching Trump for example, when he is asked basic simple questions, to which the public are very entitled to have him answer, the reporters get a litany of abuse. His constant streaming of obvious blatant lies and falsehoods, thankfully is challenged by these brave reporters. Now thankfully, Twitter have finally grown a pair of balls, and challenged him head on.
One day perhaps, @Clive will challenge the incessant and insidious nature of attacks on the main stream media, by a hard core of posters on here. The time for silence on this is well and truley over.

 

[Gerbert]

"Brave reporters". You mean the "orange man bad" brigade?

 

[Henarar]

By sensible I guess you mean deferential? Exactly the opposite of what a free press should do!!
Watching Trump for example, when he is asked basic simple questions, to which the public are very entitled to have him answer, the reporters get a litany of abuse. His constant streaming of obvious blatant lies and falsehoods, thankfully is challenged by these brave reporters. Now thankfully, Twitter have finally grown a pair of balls, and challenged him head on.
One day perhaps, @Clive will challenge the incessant and insidious nature of attacks on the main stream media, by a hard core of posters on here. The time for silence on this is well and truley over.

no when I say sensible I mean sensible, not stupid nit picking sh!t going over the same rubbish over and over again cos they have to ask something

 

[czechmate]

no when I say sensible I mean sensible, not stupid nit picking sh!t going over the same rubbish over and over again cos they have to ask something

You mean like, “why did the tower go up in flames so fast?”

 

[Highland Mule]

"Brave reporters". You mean the "orange man bad" brigade?

Because the answer to “what do you say to Americans who are scared?” is obviously “I say you’re a terrible reporter”.
Seriously, why could anyone think that was acceptable?

 

[Henarar]

You mean like, “why did the tower go up in flames so fast?”

No I don't, I mean what I say

 

[czechmate]

No I don't, I mean what I say

So asking that is nit picking ?

 

[Henarar]

So asking that is nit picking ?

 

[Exfarmer]

For all of you, who decry the media’s treatment of our, or any other government, I recommend you buy a copy of Stalingrad by Vladimir Grossman and read it. Warning, it is an expensive very long book.
Vladimir Grossman , was the number one, go to correspondent, of the Russian media of the second world war.
He himself could not bring himself to call it a factual history and wrote it as a novel, although it is intended as a Russian history of WW2 up to the battle of Stalingrad, which they consider was the turning point of the war.
In places it can be difficult not to laugh at this rewriting of history, major German victories having been cleverly engineered by Russian commanders to entice the Nazis into a stunning trap.
Stalins brutally cruel diktat, that there must be no retreat over the river Volga, is portrayed as a rallying cry to the troops, when it trapped hundreds of thousands of old men , women and children inside this terrible battleground, to be maimed starved and slaughtered.
There is not one word of criticism of the handling of the war, which possibly may never had occurred if Stalin had not plotted with Hitler and not just in the carve up of Poland. However there is strong condemnation for those arrogant greedy Finns who refused Stalins grab in the North and gave him a bloody nose, not mentioned again!
A free press is the most important part of a democratic society and the first thing that comes under the boot of any would be dictator.

 

[Henarar]

For all of you, who decry the media’s treatment of our, or any other government, I recommend you buy a copy of Stalingrad by Vladimir Grossman and read it. Warning, it is an expensive very long book.
Vladimir Grossman , was the number one, go to correspondent, of the Russian media of the second world war.
He himself could not bring himself to call it a factual history and wrote it as a novel, although it is intended as a Russian history of WW2 up to the battle of Stalingrad, which they consider was the turning point of the war.
In places it can be difficult not to laugh at this rewriting of history, major German victories having been cleverly engineered by Russian commanders to entice the Nazis into a stunning trap.
Stalins brutally cruel diktat, that there must be no retreat over the river Volga, is portrayed as a rallying cry to the troops, when it trapped hundreds of thousands of old men , women and children inside this terrible battleground, to be maimed starved and slaughtered.
There is not one word of criticism of the handling of the war, which possibly may never had occurred if Stalin had not plotted with Hitler and not just in the carve up of Poland. However there is strong condemnation for those arrogant greedy Finns who refused Stalins grab in the North and gave him a bloody nose, not mentioned again!
A free press is the most important part of a democratic society and the first thing that comes under the boot of any would be dictator.

fair enough but do they have to keep on with the stupid questions