Canary seed

franklin

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I was sad with the cleaning cost of my linseed tbh, especially as it was pretty much en route to the end user.

Still preferable to beans though.....decent, profitable non cereal break crops are in short supply.
 

Phil P

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North West
Oh well, all done, I recon there’s around 25t off 50ac:( only going of the trailers and what the combine says.
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We’ve only grown it as a break crop to get back into wheat. Had an over winter cover then the canary seed now wheat. One thing is for sure it did a lot better on the ground where the cover crop went in early and got established, the late sown cover after spring barley was no where near as good.

Going to stick it through the cleaner and tidy the sample up and see what it looks like.
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Phil P

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That's a pretty good sample. But won't pay at half s ton.
As long as it doesn’t take money it’s not to bad, I’ll just put it down to experience. The only saving grace is we have a buyer for the straw so that my just pull it back a bit. It was cheap to grow apart from the seed.
 

Phil P

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North West
whats it worth per tonne phil if you dont mind me asking neighbour has grown it just trying to get an idea of how it stacks up to 30cwt of OSR
£360/t but to be honest I’m not sure it stacks up! If it yielded like they state when doing the hard sell would probably be ok but as it stands it’s probably marginally better than leaving it fallow:facepalm:
 

ZXR17

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South Dorset
That was a good sample straight from the combine @Phil P . Was that from a straw walker combine ? What settings did you end up using.
Mine is ready now but the weather is very overcast and almost damp in the air. I was going to try cutting today or would it cut better with the sun on it ?
 

Phil P

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That was a good sample straight from the combine @Phil P . Was that from a straw walker combine ? What settings did you end up using.
Mine is ready now but the weather is very overcast and almost damp in the air. I was going to try cutting today or would it cut better with the sun on it ?
Yes walker combine, lexion 560, I started with the linseed settings then went from there.
Biggest trouble is getting the drum tight enough to thrash all the seed out without skinning it. There is still probably a few more skinned ones in the sample than I would have liked but it’s a balancing act getting the drum gap right.
I’d have to look on the combine for the exact settings but I think top sieve was about 10 bottom around 5 I can’t remember drum and fan off the top of my head but they where pretty slow and the front fan duct was shut down to 3, of course it will depend on what machine your using.
I found it better keeping the sieves wider and letting some chaff through to keep the returns low but I’m going to put it over my cleaner hopefully this week, tried some over the other day and got an excellent sample out with virtually zero skinned seed or chaff in it.

It cut pretty easy as long as you’ve got a half decent knive section. We got rained off but whent cutting again the following day as it dried that quickly with a good breeze and some some. Average moisture was circa 9%.
 
£360/t but to be honest I’m not sure it stacks up! If it yielded like they state when doing the hard sell would probably be ok but as it stands it’s probably marginally better than leaving it fallow:facepalm:

Do their printed yields ever occur! Has any seed or this kind of contract ever paid!
 

Phil P

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North West
Do their printed yields ever occur! Has any seed or this kind of contract ever paid!
No idea, it’s my first year on it. It’s seems most people only grow it for one or two years then give up. But with not many profitable combinable break crops about we needed to try something in our rotation so thought we’d give it a go.
 
No idea, it’s my first year on it. It’s seems most people only grow it for one or two years then give up. But with not many profitable combinable break crops about we needed to try something in our rotation so thought we’d give it a go.

Spring barley does ok if you want a cereal. Not the easiest combining it but we are getting towards 3t/ac with very little input spend. Can’t get malting though. With the straw this year we should be looking at a gross margin of around £600/acre.
 

Phil P

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North West
Spring barley does ok if you want a cereal. Not the easiest combining it but we are getting towards 3t/ac with very little input spend. Can’t get malting though. With the straw this year we should be looking at a gross margin of around £600/acre.
We already have spring barley in the rotation, it’s getting ground into wheat after barley that’s the problem, we’re using an over winter cover to try and improve soil quality and retain N then canary seed then two wheats, hopefully.
That’s the theory anyway:rolleyes:
 

Flat 10

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Fen Edge
Spring barley does ok if you want a cereal. Not the easiest combining it but we are getting towards 3t/ac with very little input spend. Can’t get malting though. With the straw this year we should be looking at a gross margin of around £600/acre.
Spring barley can be good but the fact that it’s not a break crop is the main problem.......
 

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