They just quantify it. The price is Just a market like wheat. If this supermarket is going to pay loads for it then the market will go up, I can’t see a supermarket paying over the offs for it though!
carbon audit
- Thread starter tupmaster
- Start date
Well you’ve basically summed the job up there. Who’s actually arguing? It’s obvious that the route they’re going to (and sort of are ish) is to introduce extra charges into the system to make things more expensive thereby reducing demand. However, the system currently is the wild west and money is finding its way into the wrong hands, whilst producing none of the theoretical improvements necessary.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Maybe at the moment it's a niche trade untill the rest of the Country's Farmers go on board or the Government dictates to the masses possibly?
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
...untill all the farmers join sfi and give their som data away to gov for a tenner an acre....?
- Location
- Suffolk
I think this is the most serious thing going on in agriculture at the moment... To be honest its exactly what the like of NFU are for but cant be relied on.
If it happens those of us already trading carbon will be told we cant join a scheme like red tractor until our carbon is counted towards the tonnage. Really important to get this right and owned by farmers.
supermarket discussions I have has made it clear they have no intention of paying for it at all - instead they are putting pressure on processors to make passing FARMERS carbon though to them
It is a VERY big deal - potential for a huge opportunity here for farmers that could be so easy given away
The NFU are part of the problem, cozying up to big retailer members and telling farmers they have obligation to be nett zero as part of supply contracts
This is another Red Tractor in the making - opportunity for premium made default no premium by easily bought incompetents with agenda
IF a carbon tax becomes a reality (likely). there will be a massive market
If you start ISO certifying it now and don't sell it you will have a nice little windfall when that happens !
My only doubt in this market is if I'm right to sell at the moment vs saving up to sell later, but if I don't certify I cant even save it up to sell in the future, this is an annual "production" opportunity and I'm not sure some are understanding that, it's like not cropping your land with wheat this year thinking you will just have 2 harvest next year
I believe Trinty and Agreena are now doing stuff with grassland and livestock - its a lot more complex than arable though and I don't pretend to understand it
- Location
- South Wales UK
Bit like trading Entitlement or quotas?
Looks like the 2 companies you mentioned 1 is at Pall Mall London and other Copenhagen?
And 40% av. held back or utilized by them?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Can somebody please clarify : is the carbon stored in the barley I harvested this year counted as sequestered carbon or not by these carbon trading firms?
- Location
- Cumbria
In Scotland, it is starting to form an increasingly important part of the agricultural policy framework. Grants of £500 per farm are already available from the Farm Advisory Service to pay for an accredited adviser to carry out a carbon audit and having such an audit is a requirement of the Beef Efficiency Scheme (BES).
rural.struttandparker.com
Farm carbon audits: Why, what and how? - Strutt & Parker - Rural Hub
Legislative changes and the weight of public expectation are putting growing pressure on the farming sector to address its carbon footprint. Summer 2019 marked a milestone in global efforts to address the issue of climate change, when the UK government became the first major economy in the world...
rural.struttandparker.com
Jo28
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- Location
- East Yorks
To be honest I know absolutely nothing about selling carbon, seems a bit like a con to me. I'm waiting for others to jump in first and see what happens. Dont like to jump into things too fast and then have someone coming after me for money back in a few years. Anyway I doubt we are the sort of farm they are after, no dd, no grassland or woods, a few trees and hedges here and there and thats about it.
I wouldn’t have thought so but it absolutely should be.
That website shows exactly how the retailers are wanting to help themselves to our carbon sequestration, but will use a whip rather than a carrot, let alone any form of payment. They will "encourage" improvements in emissions by virtue of withholding the base price and use penalties to make you get there. Boils my pee.In Scotland, it is starting to form an increasingly important part of the agricultural policy framework. Grants of £500 per farm are already available from the Farm Advisory Service to pay for an accredited adviser to carry out a carbon audit and having such an audit is a requirement of the Beef Efficiency Scheme (BES).
Farm carbon audits: Why, what and how? - Strutt & Parker - Rural Hub
Legislative changes and the weight of public expectation are putting growing pressure on the farming sector to address its carbon footprint. Summer 2019 marked a milestone in global efforts to address the issue of climate change, when the UK government became the first major economy in the world...
Seems like a con because it is one . Getting paid for carbon ffs, it's a made up number on a piece of paper is that what we're going to make a living off ?
4course
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- Location
- north yorks
whos carbon is it in or on our land .Is it our forebears ?is it the current farmer ? is it the future farmers ?is it the tenant s ?or is it the landlords? or is it the next in line that uses the crop wether it be trees/wood grass/livestock crops / glorified set aside? or the manufacturer of product or god forbid the end retailer.
- Location
- South Wales UK
It's the one's who trade it possibly?
Northernlights
Member
- Location
- NE Scotland
Personally monetising any scheme is going to lead to problems. When I first heard that Farm Assured years ago was to be to sold on to companies to make a profit I felt it had lost its way. It should always have been a not for profit company overseeing our legal standards that's all instead of dreaming up new standards so it could increase its charges for more profit. In the end they discovered that there so little money in the commodities they trying to get profit out of that they sold on to another company for them to try their luck
Getting into bed with these carbon trading companies will eventually have the same results as more and more conditions are applied and farmers of whatever size become pawns in their trades
Getting into bed with these carbon trading companies will eventually have the same results as more and more conditions are applied and farmers of whatever size become pawns in their trades
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
This - who is entitled to trade these credits? As a tenant on most of the land do our landlords have any right to a share in this or is it all about how we farm that dictates the value?