Carbon calculator.

[texelburger]

I’m all for planting trees and increasing OM content in my soil but I can’t see it balancing the books. This carbon trading and offsetting nonsense is being used by this government to to make our net zero aims look better on paper whilst exporting our agricultural industry to a foreign land where it can’t be seen. All so beardy Branson can keep flying his planes and wealthy land owners can extract money from the tax payer without having to actually farm the land.

Absolutely,spot on.

 

[Hard Graft]

just remember 55.9 million in the uk are urban based vs 10.9 millon rural and i would take a stab to say that 99% off the urban have no ablity too sequestered carbon through direct actions
they can reduce emissions but there will still have them

 

[farmerm]

Wouldn’t you need massive levels of co2 to get enough vegetation to get anywhere near the amounts needed to replace the FF being extracted? Carbon is neither created nor destroyed.

Emissions from fossil fuels of about 50bn tonnes of CO2e per year a figure that has increased 40% since 1990, despite 25 previous COP meetings starting in 1995... To give some perspective globally we produce a mere 770million tonnes of wheat.. 50bn tonnes is a heck of a lot of biomass and surface or near surface biomass is carbon that remains highly vulnerable to re-oxidization though fire or human activity.

UK emissions work out at about 4.5T per head per year or nearly 300 million tonnes of CO2e.... if woodland can sequester 400kg/ha CO2e that requires 750,000ha of trees, not just any old trees, this need to be young growing woodland not an old, mature, relatively carbon neutral forest.

The scale of what is necessary to mop up our carbon emissions is such that it would not be achieved without creating new unintended negative consequences. The reality is carbon calculations, carbon capture and carbon trading really are an utterly futile gesture.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

But should it be any different? Where the C in CO2 comes from matters not when it comes to greenhouse gas. In their calculations the energy firms are passing the responsibility for the oxidization of the carbon in their product to their consumers... considerably more carbon leaves this farm in grain than arrives in the carbon footprint of my inputs. Should I not be credited for this net reduction in CO2 with the responsibility of its later release being born by those downstream of me?

The grain leaving on a lorry will contribute to further emissions/ cycling further down the foodchain compared to the soil carbon which will stay as organic carbon if left undisturbed.

I agree it's all buck passing by the big emitters.

 

[delilah]

Is anyone berating the corner shop, builder or window cleaner for causing global warming? No
Is anyone berating agriculture for causing it? Yes
Is this unfair? Yes
So we’re not beating ourselves up about it, we’re looking at how to fight our corner.

1% of the electorate, waving their arms in the air shouting "look, over here, we produce 10% of UK GHG emssions".

No wonder we are being berated. Any Government would be politically naive not to target agriculture. Get rid of farming, cut GHG emissions by 10%, only lose 1% of the vote. What's not to like ?

Beating ourselves up is precisely what we are doing. We aren't fighting our corner. We are jumping off the cliff like lemmings.

 

[bankrupt]

300 million tonnes of CO2e.... if woodland can sequester 400kg/ha CO2e that requires 750,000ha of trees,

Several noughts been offset there - often the case with carbon calculation.

 

[Muddyroads]

1% of the electorate, waving their arms in the air shouting "look, over here, we produce 10% of UK GHG emssions".

No wonder we are being berated. Any Government would be politically naive not to target agriculture. Get rid of farming, cut GHG emissions by 10%, only lose 1% of the vote. What's not to like ?

Beating ourselves up is precisely what we are doing. We aren't fighting our corner. We are jumping off the cliff like lemmings.

I disagree. Big business are the ones sticking the boot into us, cleverly, subtly and effectively.
500 oil industry delegates at COP26 and you don’t think they’re looking to shift the blame elsewhere? Of course they are, aided and abetted by the anti livestock brigade.
Absolutely agree that NFU and AHDB aren’t helping us but you can be sure it’s not individual ones of us that are putting our hands up to any sort of emissions. What our critics are very good at is pointing out emissions without allowing for sequestration. Funny how they suddenly remember it when it comes to carbon credits and offsetting though.