Carbon-Negative Farming Practices

Felix Wieberneit

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
London
Dear all,

I am Felix, a masters student from Imperial College London.

Currently, my teammates and I are researching the topic of Carbon-Negative Farming practices in the UK. Therefore, I have attached a survey in the post. (Please point out if I made any mistakes in the survey!) Please feel free to leave comments if you have anything else you wish to discuss!
We look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions on the subject.

Link to survey

Ps.
If you have seen my post in other forums, I apologise for the spamming; it is precious for my team and me to get as many answers from farmers as possible! :)

Yours faithfully,
Felix Wieberniet
 

Jerry

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
Dear all,

I am Felix, a masters student from Imperial College London.

Currently, my teammates and I are researching the topic of Carbon-Negative Farming practices in the UK. Therefore, I have attached a survey in the post. (Please point out if I made any mistakes in the survey!) Please feel free to leave comments if you have anything else you wish to discuss!
We look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions on the subject.

Link to survey

Ps.
If you have seen my post in other forums, I apologise for the spamming; it is precious for my team and me to get as many answers from farmers as possible! :)

Yours faithfully,
Felix Wieberniet

gave up after first question. On iPad can’t select any options and why is there no option fir livestock as an output of my farm? After all it is widely stated that extensive grazing of grass is sequestering carbon everyday.
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
No option for milk as main product. Interesting that in your example of carbon negative farming you use maize as the crop. I would think that most of the maize grown in this country is still eaten by dairy cows with much of the remainder going into bio digesters.

Bonus points for picking a crop with C4 photosynthesis though.

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Felix Wieberneit

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
London
Felix, I think you're missing out on a big sector of carbon neutral farming... Livestock!
No option for milk as main product.
gave up after first question. On iPad can’t select any options and why is there no option fir livestock as an output of my farm?
Livestock is now included in the survey. I apologise for the lack of options before, it seemed many options were accidentally deleted in the survey including root vegetables and fruits!
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I believe regenerative agriculture can help with climate change, and of vital importance for this is integrating animals (mob grazing) in the farming system, unfortunately the current narrative is "eat less meat for climate change", a simplistic view that ignores the fact that without animal integration into farming, we will rely on chemical fertlisers (which use the Haber Bosch process ~ fossil fuels reliant) and these "burn" soil carbon when used on the soil so destroy soil structure and emit Carbon. Of course the multinational food conglomerates make little profit from "meat and two veg", but large profits from ultra processed vegan meals, so are behind these ideas. It is all very depressing actually. There are so many visionaries who seem to be generally ignored, Gabe Brown, Alan Savory, I love Dan Kitteradge's ideas on food nutrient density (he is also saying that rather than being organic, regenerative which is a process system standard, we should look at product system standard (nutrient density) which is the more important metric, but by necessity would have to be produced in a way that way that is good otherwise the food would not have that high nutrient density.
 

Felix Wieberneit

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
London
I believe regenerative agriculture can help with climate change, and of vital importance for this is integrating animals (mob grazing) in the farming system, unfortunately the current narrative is "eat less meat for climate change", a simplistic view that ignores the fact that without animal integration into farming, we will rely on chemical fertlisers (which use the Haber Bosch process ~ fossil fuels reliant) and these "burn" soil carbon when used on the soil so destroy soil structure and emit Carbon. Of course the multinational food conglomerates make little profit from "meat and two veg", but large profits from ultra processed vegan meals, so are behind these ideas. It is all very depressing actually. There are so many visionaries who seem to be generally ignored, Gabe Brown, Alan Savory, I love Dan Kitteradge's ideas on food nutrient density (he is also saying that rather than being organic, regenerative which is a process system standard, we should look at product system standard (nutrient density) which is the more important metric, but by necessity would have to be produced in a way that way that is good otherwise the food would not have that high nutrient density.
Thanks for the great reply, we just read some of the publications on Gabe Brown, Alan Savory, and Dan Kitteradge's work! They are all very interesting.
 

DRC

Member
I believe regenerative agriculture can help with climate change, and of vital importance for this is integrating animals (mob grazing) in the farming system, unfortunately the current narrative is "eat less meat for climate change", a simplistic view that ignores the fact that without animal integration into farming, we will rely on chemical fertlisers (which use the Haber Bosch process ~ fossil fuels reliant) and these "burn" soil carbon when used on the soil so destroy soil structure and emit Carbon. Of course the multinational food conglomerates make little profit from "meat and two veg", but large profits from ultra processed vegan meals, so are behind these ideas. It is all very depressing actually. There are so many visionaries who seem to be generally ignored, Gabe Brown, Alan Savory, I love Dan Kitteradge's ideas on food nutrient density (he is also saying that rather than being organic, regenerative which is a process system standard, we should look at product system standard (nutrient density) which is the more important metric, but by necessity would have to be produced in a way that way that is good otherwise the food would not have that high nutrient density.
I’d love to know what the actual standards of the regenerative farming are.
Do those of us that have been mixed farming for generations need to regenerate, or is it just the big prairie type arable farms in the East 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
IF temperatures will rise then why exactly is the cold UK doing anything at all ?

Warmer temperatures mean less CO2 being used on heating.

Even if the UK went Carbon negative - it won't make any difference - CO2 will continue to rise because we are coming out of an Ice Age.
Yes temperature is up and down In cycles
But the last 3/400 years the quantity of stored hydrocarbons is being released far faster than anything the earth could throw at us bar major volcanic catastrophes
 
Yes temperature is up and down In cycles
But the last 3/400 years the quantity of stored hydrocarbons is being released far faster than anything the earth could throw at us bar major volcanic catastrophes


You could turn that around and state that the Earth has never had so little hydrocarbons in the past 5 billion years.

In fact all life nearly died due to the lack of Carbon Dioxide at the height of the last Ice Age.

At least you admit hydrocarbons have been released on a massive scale before - from my understanding todays figures are some 10x to 20x less than has occurred in history. Strangely enough the Earth did not boil.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 79 42.5%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.9%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.1%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 6 3.2%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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