Case 1494 hydrashift problem.

[REStracTORATION]

Have you changed/cleaned all 3 filters and put new oil in
That helps no end on these boxes i find
If you think oil an filters are a waste of money, neednt go any further

Sorry @Ray996 didn't mean to quote you/your post here

 

[Joetas]

Yes changed all oils when we acquired it as I was reading up on them it's done it since we got then came kind of right but had to have the clutch in to start it and had no 3 or 4 in hydra shift and now it's really bad barely moves oil pressure is pump internal

 

[Joetas]

Clutch or no oil pressure ,my last 1490 had broken brake band and ended up breaking tractor due to repair was more than worth

Are parts expensive for internals for these or hard to come by thanks in the process of pulling cab off between work

 

[Selectamatic]

Yes changed all oils when we acquired it as I was reading up on them it's done it since we got then came kind of right but had to have the clutch in to start it and had no 3 or 4 in hydra shift and now it's really bad barely moves oil pressure is pump internal

Sounds like a reconditioned gearbox time.

 

[REStracTORATION]

Yes changed all oils when we acquired it as I was reading up on them it's done it since we got then came kind of right but had to have the clutch in to start it and had no 3 or 4 in hydra shift and now it's really bad barely moves oil pressure is pump internal

Filters too!

 

[Joetas]

Yes sorry and all filters changed cleaned hydrashift one in transmission

 

[REStracTORATION]

Barclay a call is what i would do to get some advice
Is the tractor worth spending a lump on?

 

[Ray996]

Are parts expensive for internals for these or hard to come by thanks in the process of pulling cab off between work

If I remember it was over 2 thousand for me send my gearbox to Barclay's and get recon box sent back,tractor was scruffy loader and wasn't worth the hassle,unless its a tidy tractor and keeping it long term only then would I do gearbox up.

 

[Selectamatic]

Barclay recon'd a HS box for us, Top Service from him.

I did the work of removing and replacing myself. It cost around £2000. Chunky money for a tractor that is not worth mega money, but I'd rather sell a kidney than scrap the 1494. She had (and still does) give us good service.

@Ray996 is right, HS troubles are. or have been the end for these tractors, but 94's are getting less, arguably more desirable with collectors, so scrapping them may start to die out.

 

[Thomas5060]

It may not work or be practical but would it be cheaper to get a standard gearbox and stick it in, instead of doing the hydrashift?

 

[Selectamatic]

It may not work or be practical but would it be cheaper to get a standard gearbox and stick it in, instead of doing the hydrashift?

Yes and no.

There's not much difference in cost between a recon'ed Synchromesh and Hydrashift. You could just bang a synchromesh in in place of the HS, but would you do that without giving that a through check over / overhaul first?

Plus, linkages would be different.

Personally, if it's a tidy and useful tractor, get the Hydrashift sorted, especially if your good with spanners, It's all fairly chunky stuff to remove and replace, the more specialist gearbox work can be done elsewhere. £2000 is a lot of money, but a DB with a buggered 'box is worth a bit more than what it weighs, you wont get something similar for the cost saved by getting rid, and, you know the history of what you have.

@Joetas, I guess that you are from outside the UK? If so, this will add extra cost to ship the gearbox back and forth, but it's still worth giving Barclay Williams a call.

 

[Joetas]

Okay thanks all will keep stripping her down to get it out and see why we have she's fairly sad came with The property and yes I'm from Australia this site has been very helpful in diagnosing and sorting stuff out on her she's very useful but very well worn

 

[Selectamatic]

Okay thanks all will keep stripping her down to get it out and see why we have she's fairly sad came with The property and yes I'm from Australia this site has been very helpful in diagnosing and sorting stuff out on her she's very useful but very well worn

Cleanliness!!

Dead important! No straw, dust, dirt, hay, iron filings, snot, nothing apart from clean oil should come anywhere near the hydraulics or the gearbox.

If you strip her down, when you take the box out, look on the inside of the casting trough, and back axle too, is there slimy oily dirt all over it? if so, this wants a thoroughly good clean before it's put back. Dirty oil kills DB back ends. It must be spotless!

Before you tear it down, I would look for one of these...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/David-Bro...671506?hash=item2386a2cc92:g:H2kAAOSw5cNYIP3g

or similar, and have a good read through, that will help you with some diagnosis first, and give you and idea of what to look at...

 

[Joetas]

So another question guys may be jumping the gun but will my 1594 engine bolt onto a 1490 4wd mines only two wheel drive I have found one yet to see it but the engine has bent rods and so forth or is the back end the same for my two wheel drive I could swap

 

[Selectamatic]

Not sure... but I doubt it, they will be different chassis and I think that they will have different hole patterns...

 

[REStracTORATION]

It will do im pretty sure if you swap chassis but throttle linkage and steering to alter alter wont just be a swap

 

[Joetas]

The 1490 is not a hydrashift either I'm leaning towards fitting my loader and engine into that 4wd tractor just doing some measuring then off to see if it may fit the 1490 is a turbo 4cylinder mines a 6 natural

 

[Ray996]

The 1490 is not a hydrashift either I'm leaning towards fitting my loader and engine into that 4wd tractor just doing some measuring then off to see if it may fit the 1490 is a turbo 4cylinder mines a 6 natural

Chap I know up in highlands here was going to put 1690 engine in 1410 ,not heard if he done it yet but will find out!

 

[multi power]

So another question guys may be jumping the gun but will my 1594 engine bolt onto a 1490 4wd mines only two wheel drive I have found one yet to see it but the engine has bent rods and so forth or is the back end the same for my two wheel drive I could swap

Why not just fix the engine?

 

[Selectamatic]

Chap I know up in highlands here was going to put 1690 engine in 1410 ,not heard if he done it yet but will find out!

Not sure what he would gain... a 1690 engine with a 1410 back end would be, well, a 1690 with a silly cab!