Case Puma cvx transmission

Half Pipe

Member
Correct me if I'm wrong but surely the NH sidewinder and you pull the stick 'back' it just slows the tractor to eventually a stop. Then if you select reverse and want to speed up you still have to push the stick forward? Or is it like a Massey powershift design and pull back to go faster in reverse?
If your travelling forward and pull NH stick back it slows to a stop then goes backward, so no need to select reverse, but it's alot harder to select zero speed, so not as easy to go between stick and pedal mode and know it's going to stop if you lift foot of pedal.
I'm happy selecting reverse on a case and knowing if I pull back fully on the stick when travelling in either direction tractor will come to a stop, with out having to look at screen or feel the zero position!
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
If your travelling forward and pull NH stick back it slows to a stop then goes backward, so no need to select reverse, but it's alot harder to select zero speed, so not as easy to go between stick and pedal mode and know it's going to stop if you lift foot of pedal.
I'm happy selecting reverse on a case and knowing if I pull back fully on the stick when travelling in either direction tractor will come to a stop, with out having to look at screen or feel the zero position!
I use the cruise button a lot on the NH. Even if it’s not in cruise a double click engages then disengages it and puts it to zero.

Besides that ours if you pull back will come to a halt. The let go of lever so it centralises and pull back a 2nd time to start going backwards.
 

Half Pipe

Member
I use the cruise button a lot on the NH. Even if it’s not in cruise a double click engages then disengages it and puts it to zero.

Besides that ours if you pull back will come to a halt. The let go of lever so it centralises and pull back a 2nd time to start going backwards.
The cruise button double click sounds like a handy trick!👍
I think both versions have there pros and cons, and depends more on which 1 you have learned to use to its full.
 

J 1177

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
Use both, a puma 160. Been a very good reliable easy to use tractor. Also a NH T7.315hd with the vario its nicer to be honest (the whole tractor is awsome) but iv not done any field work with it. The joystick is nicer in the nh but i prefer the button and dash layout in the case.
 

ColinV6

Member
I use the cruise button a lot on the NH. Even if it’s not in cruise a double click engages then disengages it and puts it to zero.

Besides that ours if you pull back will come to a halt. The let go of lever so it centralises and pull back a 2nd time to start going backwards.

There seems to be perhaps confusion between the Teir 4 a and b versions?? I’ve only limited use on a demo years ago (2016) and remember it being pull back to stop, and another pull back for reverse as you say.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Not saying that it's impossible to operate them, but New Holland control logic and button/switch layout was obviously devised by a deformed masochist recently released from a lunatic asylum
Boll-ocks its dead easy! Could throw anyone on mine and get them going within seconds.


Your obviously overthinking things when you get in one.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
I find mine sluggish switching from forward to reverse compared to the Valtra and john deeres I've used but than that its a fine! can be very twitchy at low speeds too if you don't limit the pedal travel. A full rebuild including new brakes, a clutch pack and some niggly wiring issues sorting cost me £8300 this spring which was bloody painful but as vario rebuilds go I didn't think it was too bad.
Only thing if you had a agco vario go the replacement unit would have been factory rebuild instead of the local dealers which surely would be a better job
 

ColinV6

Member
Not saying that it's impossible to operate them, but New Holland control logic and button/switch layout was obviously devised by a deformed masochist recently released from a lunatic asylum

What exactly did you find troublesome? It’s so easy, the only thing I’d like is PTO on/off on the joystick too.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
What exactly did you find troublesome? It’s so easy, the only thing I’d like is PTO on/off on the joystick too.
I would like front links connected to slip control. Be ideal for front press when drilling to get a bit of weight transfer back on the tractor.

And you gotta remember some folks prefer properly engineered tractors Like Deutz or is it Valmet or errr….. I struggle to keep up with all the chopping, changing and indecision!
 

cosmagedon

Member
Location
North Wales
I use the cruise button a lot on the NH. Even if it’s not in cruise a double click engages then disengages it and puts it to zero.

Besides that ours if you pull back will come to a halt. The let go of lever so it centralises and pull back a 2nd time to start going backwards.

I've only just started using our AC, that's a handy trick to know. Out of interest, how do you tackle hills with a heavy load behind? Also will the cruise trick work after letting off the exhaust brake? I've had a couple of hairy moments where it accelerates to the previous speed setting 😂
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
I've only just started using our AC, that's a handy trick to know. Out of interest, how do you tackle hills with a heavy load behind? Also will the cruise trick work after letting off the exhaust brake? I've had a couple of hairy moments where it accelerates to the previous speed setting 😂
Hills I leave it in cruise and if it’s revving too much I just turn the droop down a bit.

I knocked it out of cruise then use the exhaust brake,

I only ever use pedal mode round the yard wen hitching up to stuff
 

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