Catch crop for cattle

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by silverfox, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    we have grown hybrid rye for the first time this year. It’s early harvest , probably end of June, will allow a catch crop for the cattle to graze late autumn/ early winter.
    I’m well used to growing stubble turnips for sheep, which will be done after winter barley , but what would be best grown in this new situation . Some sort of kale mix, or a cheap grass mix.
    @Kevtherev @Great In Grass
     
  2. Kale. What's your following crop? If SB or maize, grow swift, 1st round cattle then sheep in feb
     
  3. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    Kale for cattle or cow cabbage
     
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  4. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    Maize to follow.
     
  5. Kevtherev

    Kevtherev Member

    Location:
    Welshpool Powys
    Kale or hybrid rape/kale with stubble turnips mix.
    Typhon used to be popular but quite dear now compared to others.
     
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  6. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    I can tell you are farming in Cornwall.;) Rape/Kale hybrids don't regrow much up here once into late Autumn. There wouldn't be much for the sheep in February, although it might provide some meaningful keep come March/April, if it's maize following.
     
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  7. You mean you can't graze in November and then again in feb?
     
  8. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    An alternative to kale would be grass with some leafy turnip, you could be grazing in 8 weeks and the grass will take you right up to maize drilling.
     
  9. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Not a chance. I had a grass/Winfred mix in last Autumn. I pulled the sheep out in early November and put a bunch back in in early February. The grass (IRG/Westerwold) was growing nicely but the Winfred hadn’t done more than put a few small shoots out from the nodes.

    From past experience, it does regrow well while it’s still warm, but nearly shuts down over winter here, which certainly isn’t high altitude or particularly ‘North’.
    The OP might have a bit milder climate, but not a lot I suspect.
     
  10. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    We’d be similar to you Neil. Not far away as the crow flies. The Welshpool area always looks like the land of milk and honey to me !
     
  11. Kevtherev

    Kevtherev Member

    Location:
    Welshpool Powys
    It’s a myth
     
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  12. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    There are certainly plenty down there who have taken 2nd cut already.:eek:
     
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  13. Not far from either neilo and the silverfox, down here near Wellington... 2nd cut coming off this afternoon as it's going over the top too fast. Looks an OK yield.... I hope :)
     
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  14. What did you go for in the end?

    Looking for some winter keep for the sucklers, light land out of stewardship fallow. VERY dirty, so have mown the stuff for littering under the cows in a shed they run-back into :rolleyes: and will plough and spin/drill something this week.

    Looking at a brassica based mix, but wondering if some IRG would be worth putting in a mix??
     
  15. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    I did one field of a kale/ forage rape / turnip mix, hopefully for the cattle, then straight stubble turnips on the rest.
    They are up quite well, but desperate for a drink
     
  16. That sounds a bit like the Wynnstay mix in the flyer they sent this week ;)

    Stubble turnips are an old standby for me, but not grown them for several years now as they don't fit in with the Contract farm arrangement I find/ This year may have to be an exception. Hopefully we in Shropshire will get some proper rain later in the week...
     

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