Cattle Shed Build

Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Huntingdon, UK
Thought I'd put some pictures up of the new cattle shed build we completed in the autumn. One shed needed replacing, and while we were at it we altered the feed passage set up. In this particular building, we doubled the yard space and went from 2 yards to 4 or 5.
The cattle used to feed through diagonal barriers, but this makes the yard very mucky, and unless you muck the yard out regularly the fat cattle always need clipping before slaughter.
The system we use now (trialled in 2 yards already seems to work very well for us. We have an 80ft wide shed, with a 20ft wide passage down one side. There is a feed trough on both sides of this passage. The cattle can be shut out (allowing us to fill the troughs), in (allowing us to muck the yard out) or free roaming (most of the time).
Compared to diagonal feed fronts, this gives a larger bedded area and a larger feeding area, allowing more cattle to be housed in the same building. We slop the passage out once a week, saving muck in the yards and keeping the cattle cleaner.

I've attached a plan as it can get quite confusing! The gates are shown in green.
This shows the yards set up as 5 yards.

Plan 1.jpg


This next plan shows the shed set up as 4 yards. The 5th yard is used if we need to keep 2-3 animals separate for whatever reason. As you can see, the far right hand yards can be made bigger or smaller by moving the gates to a different post. The 'horizontal' lone green gate in this area allows the gates to be made into a Z shape, so the very right hand yard can be small ish (as above) large ish (as below) or a happy medium. The gate in line with these in the feed passage is on a slider so the amount of feedspace can be altered with the yard size.

Plan 2.jpg


This was the old building! The stanchions were telegraph poles and way past their best.
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Doing some demolition. The two sheds left will stay, the new shed joins onto these, covering the left hand end of the plans above, so the feed passage will be just inside the closest building.

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New shed finished, digger back sorting the floor.

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Laying concrete for the feed passage. Concreting's easy with a crawler box in the tractor!
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A few concrete panels....
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Half of the steel needed....
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This is the biggest water trough, which waters 3 yards. We suffer from really bad water pressure, we have to have big tanks to store it, our water in running most of the time. If the waters off for 6 hours, it's 3 days before our tanks are full again!
So we have to put frames around the tanks to stop the cattle getting in them.
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The first yard complete. The majority of the tank is clad in stock board to keep straw and muck out the water. There is a door in it on the end you can't see, so there is only about 4 square feet of water that can get mucky. Floor is crushed limestone. The heat and moisture from the muck sets it like concrete after the first year, and it's a lot cheaper!
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Part 2 coming momentarily!
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
The gates into the handling system. Note the easy height adjustable hinges.
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Feed passage taking shape. The neck rail is 50mm galvanised pipe. The fittings are key klamp style.
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Another section done! The gates are 2ft off the floor when the yard is empty, the straw stops cattle going underneath. The posts are removable, wrap the posts in silage wrap, grease, then set in concrete. Give them a wiggle and hey presto, perfect fitting socket.
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The other water tanks are out of the yard to make mucking out easier and minimise the muck getting in.
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Some of the cattle in their new home. The handling system is under the orange light.
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Cattle shut in the feed passage while bedding takes place.
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The panels go inside the stanchions, so to fill in the gaps and stop grub escaping, the wood the panels are stacked on comes in useful with a few tek screws.
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All the gates were built by me, something like 40 in the end, all custom lengths. The hinges and latches on most farm gates are 22mm, mine are 25mm, a LOT stronger! The handles are straight to make it harder for cattle to open, doesn't make it any more difficult for humans though. Cheaper too.
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Part 3 coming soon. I've got some big panoramic shots but it says they're too big to upload!
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
One of the gates in the feed passage slides to allow for a different yard size. This is done by using a key klamp fitting to the neckrail. Just loosen the grub screws and it pushes along. The barrier inside the trough moves with it, in case small calves get in the trough, they can't get into a different yard.
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The latch end moves in exactly the same way, complete with barrier.
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The gate also has a gate inside it. The silver bar unlatches and fold upwards. When the gate is open it then does not restrict the feed trough in any way, allowing easier filling, and cattle can feed through it if both yards are running together.
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Most double gates use this method of fastening
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But the double on the end of the feed passage uses a sprung latch. One gate was too long here, it wouldn't have folded back out the way when open.
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Filling the trough
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A sliding gate I made for the handling system. I had to sacrifice my crawler board to use the wheels! Worth it though! The red handle is a latch, it slams shut but you have to lift the latch to open it. A bit of red heat shrink makes it kinder on the hands and helps it stand out.
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In strategic places, hinged key klamps are used to support the neck rail. I ground the rivet out and replaced with a bolt. So if an animal gets in the trough, we can easily remove the rail to get them out again. However the other yards have this feed passage design, and we have had 2 animals in the trough in 6 years!
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Happy

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Scotland
A lot of thought gone into that and looking good.
What size box section are the gates? Look a bit lightweight but maybe just the photos.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
A lot of thought gone into that and looking good.
What size box section are the gates? Look a bit lightweight but maybe just the photos.

Cheers, took an awful lot of thought and planning!

Gates are 50x50x5mm around the edges, middle bars are all 25x25x4 box. I've been using the same design for the last 10 years or so, one of our bulls is 1300kg and he hasn't bent any of them yet!
They're stronger than feeder wagon steps too......

On a differnet note, 6 gates to take off (held on by M8 bolts and nylocks so a very minor task), 4 posts to lift out, and all the other gates fold back against the walls to give a completely open yard other than the passage, making mucking out a breeze, or using the shed for parking kit etc over the summer months.

Hopefully some panorama pics here that the forum wouldn't let me upload
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Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
Looks good, a lot of thought and work gone into that! you should have got the gates galved.

We did seriously look at that, we have a Wedge plant a mile away! However the gates are a lot heavier than they look, about 100kgs each so it was going to cost approximately £50 a gate! It's something we might do over the summer though because it would finish it off.
 

Hilly

Member
We did seriously look at that, we have a Wedge plant a mile away! However the gates are a lot heavier than they look, about 100kgs each so it was going to cost approximately £50 a gate! It's something we might do over the summer though because it would finish it off.
I would, just do a few at a time when shed empty.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
Really interesting project.
Do you find the cattle eat all the feed out or do you have to get in the trough occasionaly and shovel out?

Nope they empty them quite well, just vary the amount some days to make sure. Normally shovel them out once a year to get rid of any stones etc that are left.
 

Marsh lad

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BASIS
Location
Lincolnshire
Thought I'd put some pictures up of the new cattle shed build we completed in the autumn. One shed needed replacing, and while we were at it we altered the feed passage set up. In this particular building, we doubled the yard space and went from 2 yards to 4 or 5.
The cattle used to feed through diagonal barriers, but this makes the yard very mucky, and unless you muck the yard out regularly the fat cattle always need clipping before slaughter.
The system we use now (trialled in 2 yards already seems to work very well for us. We have an 80ft wide shed, with a 20ft wide passage down one side. There is a feed trough on both sides of this passage. The cattle can be shut out (allowing us to fill the troughs), in (allowing us to muck the yard out) or free roaming (most of the time).
Compared to diagonal feed fronts, this gives a larger bedded area and a larger feeding area, allowing more cattle to be housed in the same building. We slop the passage out once a week, saving muck in the yards and keeping the cattle cleaner.

I've attached a plan as it can get quite confusing! The gates are shown in green.
This shows the yards set up as 5 yards.

View attachment 271586

This next plan shows the shed set up as 4 yards. The 5th yard is used if we need to keep 2-3 animals separate for whatever reason. As you can see, the far right hand yards can be made bigger or smaller by moving the gates to a different post. The 'horizontal' lone green gate in this area allows the gates to be made into a Z shape, so the very right hand yard can be small ish (as above) large ish (as below) or a happy medium. The gate in line with these in the feed passage is on a slider so the amount of feedspace can be altered with the yard size.

View attachment 271588

This was the old building! The stanchions were telegraph poles and way past their best.
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Doing some demolition. The two sheds left will stay, the new shed joins onto these, covering the left hand end of the plans above, so the feed passage will be just inside the closest building.

View attachment 271592

New shed finished, digger back sorting the floor.

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Laying concrete for the feed passage. Concreting's easy with a crawler box in the tractor!
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A few concrete panels....
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Half of the steel needed....
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This is the biggest water trough, which waters 3 yards. We suffer from really bad water pressure, we have to have big tanks to store it, our water in running most of the time. If the waters off for 6 hours, it's 3 days before our tanks are full again!
So we have to put frames around the tanks to stop the cattle getting in them.
View attachment 271616

The first yard complete. The majority of the tank is clad in stock board to keep straw and muck out the water. There is a door in it on the end you can't see, so there is only about 4 square feet of water that can get mucky. Floor is crushed limestone. The heat and moisture from the muck sets it like concrete after the first year, and it's a lot cheaper!
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Part 2 coming momentarily!

Bloody good trailers them ex bartlett gull trailers a friend has two of them one is number 69 , heard people say the reason gull went bust is they built the trailers to good.
Not many agri trailers have air suspension.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
Bloody good trailers them ex bartlett gull trailers a friend has two of them one is number 69 , heard people say the reason gull went bust is they built the trailers to good.
Not many agri trailers have air suspension.

Yeah we have two too. Both have floats, perfect cheap trailers for a bit of muck cart.
 
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Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
Smart setup.
How many cattle does the new shed hold?

In total (Including the older sheds) it can hold about 110 fat cattle or about 160 stores.
The sheds are 13,200 sq ft total, including the handling system, with 1,500 sq ft of outdoor yard.

We have about 110 suckler cows, and keep the calves right through to fat. Occasionally we buy a few stores, giving us a total that floats around 400 head.
 

pear

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BASE UK Member
Location
Hertfordshire
In total (Including the older sheds) it can hold about 110 fat cattle or about 160 stores.
The sheds are 13,200 sq ft total, including the handling system, with 1,500 sq ft of outdoor yard.

We have about 110 suckler cows, and keep the calves right through to fat. Occasionally we buy a few stores, giving us a total that floats around 400 head.

Is the new build just for the stores and fats or will you calve in there?

Im looking into a new shed at the mo, and easiest option for the cows is to keep the old shed for calving
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
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Location
Huntingdon, UK
Is the new build just for the stores and fats or will you calve in there?

Im looking into a new shed at the mo, and easiest option for the cows is to keep the old shed for calving

Nope, the calving yard is separate, next to 5 individual pens, next to the main thoroughfare in the yard so you're looking at them all the time. It also has one of @Sleepy cameras in there, so won't move them. It may have some cows and calves in there later on though, when we have got rid of some fat.
 

Oat

Member
Location
Cheshire
A really impressive setup, but I just have a small query-

Are the joins were two gates join strong enough to avoid tilting play?

On one gate you have two brackets for the pin to go through, but only one on the other. Depending on how long the gate is and the tightness of the holes, does the gate with only one bracket not have a bit of play in it so it can tilt forwards and backwards at the top or bottom?. If you had a second bracket this would perhaps avoid it.
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
A really impressive setup, but I just have a small query-

Are the joins were two gates join strong enough to avoid tilting play?

On one gate you have two brackets for the pin to go through, but only one on the other. Depending on how long the gate is and the tightness of the holes, does the gate with only one bracket not have a bit of play in it so it can tilt forwards and backwards at the top or bottom?. If you had a second bracket this would perhaps avoid it.

The gates don't twist, as they're really heavy duty, so not really an issue. It's no different to having a sprung latch, they only latch in the middle. 2 tabs on each gate might be stronger, but if the pin gets bent it would be a lot harder to remove.
 

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