Caught in Fungicide Spray

[JCfarmer]

JJSpringers hasn't replied yet, are you there, is anybody there??? ? ??
On a serious note we have plenty of footpath walkers on one block of land and always stop the sprayer to let them pass at a good distance.

 

[Brisel]

I had hoped that the manufacturers would develop solvents that didn't smell as potent as some do. It doesn't give a great image to spraying as the public think it's the pesticide that they are breathing in, not trace levels of the solvent.

 

[JJSpringers]

Thanks again for the messages. Feeling a bit unwell today tbh and my dogs are def quieter than usual. Called 111 and they advised immediate A&E but not sure if this warrants it. No breathing issues though so probably a 'hangover' type thing from the exposure to this stuff. Mouth skin tastes horrible so wondering if we got a spray of droplets and ingested it that way rather than breathing it in so much.
Hopefully will feel ok soon.

 

[JJSpringers]

On another note - can anyone please advise if the contractor will most likely have been honest about spraying what he said he was spraying? I have to admit that StillFarming has made me nervous about this.

 

[JJSpringers]

I have read that something called Chlorothalonil has recently been banned - could this have been being 'used up'? Or is that more than a person's job is worth?

 

[B'o'B]

I have read that something called Chlorothalonil has recently been banned - could this have been being 'used up'? Or is that more than a person's job is worth?

I’m going to guess you where in a wheat field as that chemical is one that would be used at this time of year applied to the seed head of the wheat, often call a T3 fungicide. I would think it almost certain that he was telling the truth.
Chlorothaonil was very occasionally used as part of a T3, but not that commonly, it’s strengths were much more useful earlier on in the growing season (March-May), and this years weather would mean its strengths are not useful right now.

 

[JJSpringers]

Thank you - yes it was a wheat field and he did seem honest tbf to him.

 

[Wombat]

On another note - can anyone please advise if the contractor will most likely have been honest about spraying what he said he was spraying? I have to admit that StillFarming has made me nervous about this.

For a spray application there would normally be a recommendation from an agronomist, you the have to buy the chemicals from an approved stockist and you can only do this if you have the required application certificates.

The contractor has to then mix and apply them.

I don’t think any contractor would risk their licenses/livelyhood or insurance applying anything that was not recommended/approved or no longer under license.

Still farming should have thought through this before making unsubstantiated comments

If the contractor has told you what he was applying then I would assume this is 100% correct

 

[Kidds]

Yes I read that sheet and got even more worried.

A lot of labels give description of symptoms of poisoning. I mysteriously develop all the symptoms as soon as I read them even if I have only read the label.
You will be fine, a suggestion of immediate A&E is dramatic and I very much expect the drama is rubbing off on you and then onto your dogs too. My uncle recently decided he had been poisoned by some spray, this was despite the fact he was nowhere near it and the breeze was blowing it away from him if anything. It is surprising just how much the mind can take over. He spent an hour spitting and then went home to bath and change.

I got caught by a sprayer myself last week. I was in my car on a public road and the sprayer was in a field, overhanging the road so much that the boom was above me! Good job I wasn't in a lorry.

 

[Clive]

New to this forum and am a smallholder not a farmer so I hope you won't mind me asking this.

Can anyone tell me how harmful it could have been to breathe in fungicide spray straight after it was sprayed? Walked in it for a minute or so after the sprayer went straight past me at close quarters. I had heard that most of the really bad stuff was banned now but I could barely breathe by the time I got off the footpath - strong chemical smell as you would expect and the skin in my mouth gone a bit strange feeling.

Has anyone experience this and know what I can expect to happen if anything much? I had my dogs with me too.

looking for the positives here you won’t get mildew, septoria, rust or fusarium !


in all seriousness it’s not harmful - if it was do you think farmers and sprayer operators would happily expose themselves to it over and over again given the pitance they earn ?

 

[tw15]

looking for the positives here you won’t get mildew, septoria, rust or fusarium !


in all seriousness it’s not harmful - if it was do you think farmers and sprayer operators would happily expose themselves to it over and over again given the pitance they earn ?

You might not suffer from a fungal nail infection either .

 

[Brisel]

Or thrush

 

[yellow belly]

The worst chemicals that are used are organophosphates which used to be in nit shampoo for those too lazy to use the nit comb
Now days the chemicals are tested fully in the concentrate form

the type of fungicide in the op is also used for the control of human worms

imho the effects from glue or nail varnish remover or paint or fly spray are worse than a day operating a sprayer And mixing the spray before application
Moldy hay or straw and dust mites are a bigger more dangerous hazard

 

[Still Farming]

On another note - can anyone please advise if the contractor will most likely have been honest about spraying what he said he was spraying? I have to admit that StillFarming has made me nervous about this.

Please don't be worried ,just go and ask for spray log records ,everyone will then know EXACTLY where,what,why,if ,but etc etc then.
Take care.

 

[DrWazzock]

I trod in some dog sh!t on the public footpath the other night. It didn’t have a fancy label on it but I read somewhere that it contains at least 4 pathogens that can be lethal to humans including campylobacter, yersinia, and E. coli ., never mind tapeworm that can kill my sheep. I thought about ringing the owner to ask if I could see his worming records and if he could show me evidence of his environmental impact assessment that he undertakes before walking his dog in terms of parasite control and in terms of the danger it poses to ground nesting birds and livestock. After all it could be a serious HSE issue if a young child on the path got in some dog muck and lost his sight due to infection.
And then I thought life’s too short. Wash it off and crack on. These things happen.

 

[Andy26]

Thanks again for the messages. Feeling a bit unwell today tbh and my dogs are def quieter than usual. Called 111 and they advised immediate A&E but not sure if this warrants it. No breathing issues though so probably a 'hangover' type thing from the exposure to this stuff. Mouth skin tastes horrible so wondering if we got a spray of droplets and ingested it that way rather than breathing it in so much.
Hopefully will feel ok soon.

Classic signs of Nocebo effect, unless you took a bath in the stuff neat, don't worry.

 

[Still Farming]

For a spray application there would normally be a recommendation from an agronomist, you the have to buy the chemicals from an approved stockist and you can only do this if you have the required application certificates.

The contractor has to then mix and apply them.

I don’t think any contractor would risk their licenses/livelyhood or insurance applying anything that was not recommended/approved or no longer under license.

Still farming should have thought through this before making unsubstantiated comments

If the contractor has told you what he was applying then I would assume this is 100% correct

I have thought it through m8 ,looks like others CLEARLY have NOT?
If worried NO GOOD GUESSING on here ,go and see landowner,tenant, sprayer person?
Simple?

 

[JJSpringers]

You are all settling my worries - can't thank you enough really. I expected to have my backside handed to me for even being on the footpath with a great sprayer thundering towards me - there will not be a next time I can assure you.
My main fears were for the dogs as they are smaller and lower down so could potentially ingest more. Seeing the vet later in any case just for a chat and a check up.

Note to self - never google this stuff.

 

[Andy26]

There is Bystander exposure regulations, all pesticides are tested for just this scenario.

 

[JJSpringers]

StillFarming - did you miss where I did speak with the sprayer and he was spraying a fungicide called Soleil? So not guessing - just asking for a bit of help from people who know about this stuff.