CCTV camera system advice please

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  1. edwin42

    edwin42 New Member

    Hi I am putting together a CCTV system for work.

    The cameras will not be monitored just used for reference if necessary and will be high value site.

    I need 5 fixed bullet outdoor cameras, 4-5mb

    Also need 9 fixed dome cameras internally, 3-5mb.

    I think an ip system is indicated.

    Budget is £1.5k

    Hoping someone can help suggest what cameras are a good buy at the moment and what system (recorder that can handle 14 cameras, screen, cables) we would need around this to be practical?
     
  2. Davey

    Davey Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    We use cheap Foscam ptz cameras internally. They're about £50 and I think are often sold as baby monitors. Not great but they are good enough for our farrowing sheds.

    Externally we use Axis cameras but it think these would blow your budget although you do get what you pay for. Externally i would avoid IR built into the camera as these quickly get covered in spiders webs.

    POE makes wiring up much easier.

    I think the main problem is going to be finding a way of recording from the cameras within your budget. Again we use a qnap device which is good but I think for the money try finding an old pc or buying a reconditioned one and putting recording software on it.

    There is at least 1 company on here doing this sort of thing so hopefully they will be able to offer more advice.
     
  3. edwin42

    edwin42 New Member

    Thanks for the reply Davey!

    After reading your post I think we will extend the budget for a better system. Hikvision cameras seem good and can source 5 5mp bullet cameras and 9 3mp dome cameras for £1.4k

    Can anyone recommend a 14+ channel poe enabled recorder to run this setup?

    If we dont want it on the internet do we still need a router?

    Thanks!
     
  4. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    What length of recording are you hoping for? 14 cameras recording would chew up a HUGE amount of drive space I would expect. I don't know a huge amount about it by any means, but I'd also think that writing that data to a single drive at the same time (i.e.14 live feeds) would be quite a big ask....but might be totally wrong.
     
  5. rob1

    rob1 Member

    Location:
    wiltshire
  6. sleepy

    sleepy Member

    Location:
    Devon, UK
    Thanks for the tag but unfortunately it is probably not one for us, it sounds like @edwin42 already has quite a good handle on what to do but I think the budget may come up a bit short.

    With this size system you really need to be looking at around 300-500/camera to get anything decent that will last, especially if there is wireless involved and you want to be able to record it all. The indoor cameras will certainly be cheaper to do then the outdoor ones.

    Our speciality is calving and lambing cameras and outdoor wireless farm cctv: www.agricamera.co.uk :)
     
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  7. rob1

    rob1 Member

    Location:
    wiltshire
    bugger thats my commission gone then:(:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  8. edwin42

    edwin42 New Member

    We have upped our budget and decided on hikvision cameras with POE install and 6TB drive. Apparently the cameras use compressed data so this will last a month. Thanks for the comments and help!
     
  9. Steevo

    Steevo Member

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    Gloucestershire
    Sounds good. Let us know how you get on with them in the end....and how the budget works out. Be a most interesting project!
     
  10. HDAV

    HDAV Member

    14+ network cams and decent red and frame rate will need some storage! 24/7 record or event only? £100 per camera isn't enough to cover PoE switch (needs decent through put) drives (need raid?) and cameras look at techwin (Samsung) lite range and Dahua but pushing budget £30 per camera is entry level trade fixed view over hdcvi or composite IP is over £60 IIRC
     
  11. heymrmessy

    heymrmessy New Member

    Location:
    Evesham
    We just put in a Hikvision system with a POE recorder and 14 dome cameras. Brilliant quality images and easy install. Would totally recommend.
     
  12. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Cost?
     
  13. heymrmessy

    heymrmessy New Member

    Location:
    Evesham
    Came to about £2160 for the cameras, recorder and drives (cameras being the bulk at £103.33 each) plus a couple of boxes of Cat5 cable and a few connectors.
    1 x DS-7616NI-12/16P 16 Channel (up to 12MP) PoE NVR
    2 x 4TB Skyhawk Hard Drives
    14 x DS-2CD2155FWD-I 2.8mm 5MP IP Dome cameras.
     
  14. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Thanks. Sounds good value compared to many systems.
     
  15. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    I have a few of these Hikvision POE cameras Hikvision DS-2CD2042WD-I WDR 4 mm IR they are about £100 each and run off a netgear POE switch for the 2 setups i have. Great resolution easy to install and very smart.
     
  16. Wombat

    Wombat Member

    Location:
    East yorks
    Where did you get the NVR if you don't mind me asking? thanks
     
  17. heymrmessy

    heymrmessy New Member

    Location:
    Evesham
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