Cecil Rhodes statue.

[Oldmacdonald]

Should it remain at Oxford university?

It apparently will due to high costs of removal

But what's your views.


I'd suggest his only redeeming feature was to leave his wealth to the university and that in no way makes up for the rest of his views and actions.

 

[alex04w]

I see the University lecturers are refusing to teach the students of that college. What did the students do wrong to be so punished? Woke virtue flagging??

His money paid for a large part of the college and its work. Should that be torn down as well?

There has to come a point where common sense is applied and these statues are left alone. They are part of history whether we like it or not.

 

[Widgetone]

Not sure what Rhodes did whenever he did it tbh.
Much more irritated that Her Madge's portrait is under fire from a few post grads ( American apparently ? )

Have the Normans apologised for killing our King back in 1066?

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Not sure what Rhodes did whenever he did it tbh.
Much more irritated that Her Madge's portrait is under fire from a few post grads ( American apparently ? )

Have the Normans apologised for killing our King back in 1066?

It's a print.
It was only put up in 2013.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Not sure what Rhodes did whenever he did it tbh.
Much more irritated that Her Madge's portrait is under fire from a few post grads ( American apparently ? )

Have the Normans apologised for killing our King back in 1066?

Have you got her portrait up in your house? If not, why not?

 

[Paddington]

As Britons were enslaved under the Roman occupation and never received an apology, I suggest all students should abstain from drinking Italian wines and eating pizzas.

 

[DrWazzock]

Have you got her portrait up in your house? If not, why not?

Last time I visited a certain machinery dealers not far from here I was invited into the bosses office to finalise a purchase. There behind his desk was a portrait of the Queen gazing down upon us. To me it epitomised the reliability of that steady old firm and I felt reassured by it.

 

[Oldmacdonald]

As Britons were enslaved under the Roman occupation and never received an apology, I suggest all students should abstain from drinking Italian wines and eating pizzas.

I'm not sure that analogy really works though. I'd assume youd be somewhat averse to a statue of Jimmy Saville.

 

[Mr Mackay]

I'm not sure that analogy really works though. I'd assume youd be somewhat averse to a statue of Jimmy Saville.

Now then, now then

 

[Widgetone]

Have you got her portrait up in your house? If not, why not?

Comes across as a tad aggressive, and I apologise for anything my English ancestors may have done to yours at some point in the past.

No, I haven't, is it a requirement?

 

[Oldmacdonald]

Comes across as a tad aggressive, and I apologise for anything my English ancestors may have done to yours at some point in the past.

No, I haven't, is it a requirement?

Then why do you seem to think it's a requirement for the Oxford students to have it up in their common room?

 

[Widgetone]

Then why do you seem to think it's a requirement for the Oxford students to have it up in their common room?

Certainly don't think they should be required to have it, and are quite entitled to re decorate as they wish.
It was the reason given for it - which may have been misreported as is possible in the current climate.
Pipe of peace

 

[Roger Perry]

However inconvenient you cannot re-write history..............got to live and (hopefully learn from it.

 

[Highland Mule]

However inconvenient you cannot re-write history..............got to live and (hopefully learn from it.

100% agree. It would be best to leave the staue in place alongside a plaque to detail the good and bad that was done by the man - make it factual and leave it to the reader to decide the bigger picture. It's fair to say that history has been 'rewritten' in the past though, to downplay the latter and emphasise the former.

 

[nivilla1982]

However inconvenient you cannot re-write history..............got to live and (hopefully learn from it.

Correct

 

[7610 super q]

I have a portrait of Sir Rhodes Boyson hanging up in my house.
I hope this helps.

 

[Lowland1]

I'd take it. I'd be quite happy with it on the lawn down the fen. Honestly everyone is living in the past. Move on. Rhodes was a man of his time that time has gone keeping his statue up should be a lesson to all that you can't airbrush out history. You should be able to look at these statues and know what these people did and assess whether it was good or bad. At the time it was considered good now times have changed.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I watched a programme on the telly the other night about them Vikins .....and I'll tell, you this, thers no way i'll ever buy Volvo or listen to Abba again.

 

[Bald Rick]

I watched a programme on the telly the other night about them Vikins .....and I'll tell, you this, thers no way i'll ever buy Volvo or listen to Abba again.

Vikings terrify me ......... Vikins not so much

 

[Bald Rick]

If you really want to cry, I see that the Middle Common Room (post grad students) of Magdalene College Cambridge have voted to remove the portrait of the Queen that is in there as it "may cause distress to some of our overseas students due to her colonial associations"

What a time to be alive