CEREAL SEED GROWERS WANTED

We are a family run business based in Lancashire farming over 2,100 acres of land. In addition to the farming operations we operate a seed processing mill at Lathom. As a result of significant investment in a new seed processing facility and a 2,000 ton purpose designed seed store, we are looking for new seed growers to provide the additional crops needed to achieve our ambitious growth plans.

Most growers will be able to produce seed crops with little more effort than it takes to produce a crop of feed grain and can typically add £50-100 of gross income per acre, depending on yield, species and premium. If seed growing is something you may be interested in, we would very much welcome the opportunity to discuss the benefits of growing seed crops as part of your farming operations.

All areas and regions will be considered.

For further information please contact,

John Pape on 01695 586100 or Mobile 07590 607859 or email [email protected]

 

[Chae1]

Classifieds?

 

[tr250]

What varieties of wheat are you looking to grow this autumn?

 

[Woodlander]

We are a family run business based in Lancashire farming over 2,100 acres of land. In addition to the farming operations we operate a seed processing mill at Lathom. As a result of significant investment in a new seed processing facility and a 2,000 ton purpose designed seed store, we are looking for new seed growers to provide the additional crops needed to achieve our ambitious growth plans.

Most growers will be able to produce seed crops with little more effort than it takes to produce a crop of feed grain and can typically add £50-100 of gross income per acre, depending on yield, species and premium. If seed growing is something you may be interested in, we would very much welcome the opportunity to discuss the benefits of growing seed crops as part of your farming operations.

All areas and regions will be considered.

For further information please contact,

John Pape on 01695 586100 or Mobile 07590 607859 or email [email protected]

Don't underestimate the additional costs. C1 far more expensive than FSS. Additional store, harvester, trailer, drier cleanliness all takes time. Rogueing. Tied in to selling the crop at buyers call when the market MAY be lower at harvest. Rotational restrictions. Maybe more suited to certain cultivation regimes depending on previous crop, far higher quality/putrity standards than plain old feed wheat!!! ........

 

[principal skinner]

If I was to grow a milling variety for seed, would you pay the seed premium on top of the milling price or on top of the feed price?

Would you give me the C1 seed to multiply at my risk, for free?

Would you take every tonne at full price off of the area sown if it meets spec?

 

[Farmergrum]

Adds £50-100 to GM but seed costs you at least an additional £50-£100 roughing charges and extra chemical costs and other growing costs mentioned above.... risk all with grower.... as per...

 

[Chae1]

Spring crops are the worst. Have to store it till February following year.

 

[warksfarmer]

We are a family run business based in Lancashire farming over 2,100 acres of land. In addition to the farming operations we operate a seed processing mill at Lathom. As a result of significant investment in a new seed processing facility and a 2,000 ton purpose designed seed store, we are looking for new seed growers to provide the additional crops needed to achieve our ambitious growth plans.

Most growers will be able to produce seed crops with little more effort than it takes to produce a crop of feed grain and can typically add £50-100 of gross income per acre, depending on yield, species and premium. If seed growing is something you may be interested in, we would very much welcome the opportunity to discuss the benefits of growing seed crops as part of your farming operations.

All areas and regions will be considered.

For further information please contact,

John Pape on 01695 586100 or Mobile 07590 607859 or email [email protected]

Interested if you supply the seed FOC and are actively involved with input decisions. We’ll offer the land rent free and do a stubble to stubble service at an agreed charge including drying and storage. All other input costs are split 50:50 and then all profit split 50:50.

 

[JCfarmer]

I'm sorry but I would want to see £200 acre more at least for the extra hastle and INPUT COSTS involved.

 

[principal skinner]

Interested if you supply the seed FOC and are actively involved with input decisions. We’ll offer the land rent free and do a stubble to stubble service at an agreed charge including drying and storage. All other input costs are split 50:50 and then all profit split 50:50.

I’m in on that deal

 

[principal skinner]

From my experience, seed growing is a mugs game. Who has grown for example Skyfall, made a good margin over market price and had the whole produce of the area taken at full price? And had a discount on the C1 seed?

 

[warksfarmer]

From my experience, seed growing is a mugs game. Who has grown for example Skyfall, made a good margin over market price and had the whole produce of the area taken at full price? And had a discount on the C1 seed?

The seed industry needs to wake up. They expect the farmer to buy seed off them, take all the risk growing it, then get shafted when they come to buy the harvested crop back when spurious claims are made. It’s a con.

 

[limestone brash]

Better to grow your own seed and just buy a ton of a new variety every now and then

 

[Spashett]

The seed industry needs to wake up. They expect the farmer to buy seed off them, take all the risk growing it, then get shafted when they come to buy the harvested crop back when spurious claims are made. It’s a con.

I grow seed and my father before. I do not think it's a mugs game. The risk is the same with any contract. If you meet the standard you get the payment. Multiplying seed costs more but the two companies I deal with, in the very rare occasion that the seed does not get used as seed, pay me back a rebate to cover that additional seed cost. I of course still have the crop to market. So what is at risk is a premium. For me on my farm and my set up seed works and pays.

 

[warksfarmer]

I grow seed and my father before. I do not think it's a mugs game. The risk is the same with any contract. If you meet the standard you get the payment. Multiplying seed costs more but the two companies I deal with, in the very rare occasion that the seed does not get used as seed, pay me back a rebate to cover that additional seed cost. I of course still have the crop to market. So what is at risk is a premium. For me on my farm and my set up seed works and pays.

You are doing somebody else’s job for them and your taking all the risks. They are taking none.

How many seed companies buy or rent land, set up the infrastructure such as sheds, driers etc. Buy all the tractors, combines etc, harvest the crops segregate them and then store them?

Answer is none.

 

[Spashett]

You are doing somebody else’s job for them and your taking all the risks. They are taking none.

How many seed companies buy or rent land, set up the infrastructure such as sheds, driers etc. Buy all the tractors, combines etc, harvest the crops segregate them and then store them?

Answer is none.

And how many Mills, Maltsters, Feed homes do the same we are all doing a job for someone!

 

[warksfarmer]

And how many Mills, Maltsters, Feed homes do the same we are all doing a job for someone!

Slightly different thing isn’t it.

The seed merchant sells the farmer very expensive seed. The farmer takes all the risks. The seed merchant hopefully buys the seed back off the farmer if they don’t shaft them at a slightly higher price than the market price. The seed merchant cleans and dresses the seed before selling it back to farmers at an even further elevated price.

A miller just buys the product off a farmer and turns it into something to then sell to joe public in the main albeit farmers are some of those customers but it’s a different product your buying back.

 

[woodylane]

You are doing somebody else’s job for them and your taking all the risks. They are taking none.

How many seed companies buy or rent land, set up the infrastructure such as sheds, driers etc. Buy all the tractors, combines etc, harvest the crops segregate them and then store them?

Answer is none.

That’s where you’re completely wrong as that is exactly what the company I work for does. Seed growing might not work for everyone but it works for a lot of people.

 

[Clive]

The seed industry needs to wake up. They expect the farmer to buy seed off them, take all the risk growing it, then get shafted when they come to buy the harvested crop back when spurious claims are made. It’s a con.

Yep - been there and done that myself

Mugs game imo - risk far out weighs the reward

 

[warksfarmer]

That’s where you’re completely wrong as that is exactly what the company I work for does. Seed growing might not work for everyone but it works for a lot of people.

Ok fair enough. Who is this seed company that’s buying or renting land and taking the risks on themselves as well as offering deals out to us mere peasants.

If they exist I’m in .....