"Ceres Tag" Solar powered Geo/Virtual fencing ear tag

[JohnGalway]

Anyone know more?

Something like this would be great on cattle on remote open hill country, if it was reliable and affordable. I see a $30 per tag cost mentioned but nothing in regards to. I presume, on going subscription costs or base stations/software or similar.

Also reliability would be critical in keeping animals away from hazards such as roads, rivers, swamps etc.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...s/news-story/37c76c1d6e6eb9f9ebf2297a5e58efdd

http://www.cerestag.com/

 

[GTB]

I can't open the top link but I've read the ceres one. Where does it say it can keep stock away from hazards? From what I could see all they can do is monitor an animals location and tell you if they have a temp???

I had visions of the tag zapping the beast if it crossed an imaginary line....

 

[JohnGalway]

I can't open the top link but I've read the ceres one. Where does it say it can keep stock away from hazards? From what I could see all they can do is monitor an animals location and tell you if they have a temp???

I had visions of the tag zapping the beast if it crossed an imaginary line....

It says it in the article you can't open If you Google "Ceres tag the australian" should find a link that opens.

 

[exmoor dave]

I find stuff like this fascinating,

Location and temperature reading alone would be a tremendous step forward in livestock management.

Geo fencing would be nice, but I imagine you're looking at a further big increase in equipment costs.

My landlords have mentioned a interest in this for grazing the moor.

 

[JohnGalway]

Geo fencing is essential for what I plan. I've been given a date of 2019 for this feature to be available. Haven't delved into costs yet, I can't see it being that expensive given the advances in technology.

 

[exmoor dave]

Geo fencing is essential for what I plan. I've been given a date of 2019 for this feature to be available. Haven't delved into costs yet, I can't see it being that expensive given the advances in technology.

I did alot of research in to all this 5 years ago & it seemed on the cusp then of being commercially available but batteries were the big problem.

Once it's commercially available in big cattle countries like the US etc etc then the price should come down reasonably quickly.

 

[exmoor dave]

Geo fencing is essential for what I plan. I've been given a date of 2019 for this feature to be available. Haven't delved into costs yet, I can't see it being that expensive given the advances in technology.

Imagine being able to give cattle a fresh break of grass every day with out peeing around with fences!
The mind boggles at the possibilities

 

[sidjon]

Are Gallagher not working on something like this too? Seen something about it the spring in the NZFW.

 

[JohnGalway]

I took a look, via Google, on Alibaba. I find something called a rf-v26 solar powered gps unit for livestock. So, I went Googling again and haven't come up with an awful lot, but I did find tests of the rf-v16 on YouTube. IF the rf-v26 is as good, and solar charged, it might be worth a punt as a stop gap for me anyway.

 

[JohnGalway]

Just bought an rf-v26 off ebay, soon see if it works or not!

 

[exmoor dave]

Just bought an rf-v26 off ebay, soon see if it works or not!

That looks interesting, one of the seller's says the module has a "ring" function that you can train the animals to move, I guess for example put concentrates down in a certain place and train the stock to move to that point, would be good on the moor!

 

[JohnGalway]

That looks interesting, one of the seller's says the module has a "ring" function that you can train the animals to move, I guess for example put concentrates down in a certain place and train the stock to move to that point, would be good on the moor!

That's a good idea, wonder would it work? Any time I've fed animals in big blocks of land they tend to congregate at the gate, even if the trough is at the other end.

 

[JohnGalway]

Are Gallagher not working on something like this too? Seen something about it the spring in the NZFW.

I believe they are, in conjunction with a company called Agersens?

 

[JohnGalway]

That looks interesting, one of the seller's says the module has a "ring" function that you can train the animals to move, I guess for example put concentrates down in a certain place and train the stock to move to that point, would be good on the moor!

On the item I purchased there's feature listed as "two way voice". Now I have been googling a bit more since and dug up an older American article

http://v-e-n-u-e.com/Invisible-Fences-An-Interview-with-Dean-Anderson

It's a long but very interesting read imo.

One of the YouTube videos shows a voice recording leading a cow to a specific point.

All this is 6+ years old!

 

[llamedos]

Took me a while to find these, I recalled seeing the link on AgFunder a bit ago.
http://agersens.com

https://agfundernews.com/agtech-fun...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

[JohnGalway]

Right then, "Dial-a-Moo" (not it's real name) has arrived!

I've no sim cards bought yet so just looking at the app which I can now log into with the serial number of the device.

The geo fence is not as I had hoped. On a poor relation non terrain map you can pick a point, and the geo fence is a circle which you can widen out from 100 to 5000 meters in radius in 100 meter increments. It's still useful to me, just not as useful as I'd hoped. I had wanted to to draw a specific shape and have that as the geo fence, but in the end the poor mans option may be as broad as it is long.

The device itself is quite small, even for putting on my test sheep! For a cow, it's proper tiny.

In the settings "interval for uploading location data" can be set at 1 minute, 10 minutes, or 1 hour or 12 hours.

In the app you can also demand real time location and historical location. There are other features I'm only going to fully grasp once I use the thing as the instructions are in Chinglish.

 

[GTB]

Right then, "Dial-a-Moo" (not it's real name) has arrived!

I've no sim cards bought yet so just looking at the app which I can now log into with the serial number of the device.

The geo fence is not as I had hoped. On a poor relation non terrain map you can pick a point, and the geo fence is a circle which you can widen out from 100 to 5000 meters in radius in 100 meter increments. It's still useful to me, just not as useful as I'd hoped. I had wanted to to draw a specific shape and have that as the geo fence, but in the end the poor mans option may be as broad as it is long.

View attachment 556030

The device itself is quite small, even for putting on my test sheep! For a cow, it's proper tiny.

View attachment 556032

In the settings "interval for uploading location data" can be set at 1 minute, 10 minutes, or 1 hour or 12 hours.

In the app you can also demand real time location and historical location. There are other features I'm only going to fully grasp once I use the thing as the instructions are in Chinglish.

How are you going to fix the device to your sheep and cattle so they don't fall or rub off?

 

[JohnGalway]

How are you going to fix the device to your sheep and cattle so they don't fall or rub off?

There's a bracket it clicks into, which can be attached to a collar which is on it's way here.

Anyone know much about sim cards, I may have acted in haste. I though I may have been able to get away with buying a pay as you go sim card on the same network as my phone for €22. Then I actually read the page today, where it says unlimited data and texts to any network if I top up €20 a month

Question is what happens if I don't top up....

 

[GTB]

There's a bracket it clicks into, which can be attached to a collar which is on it's way here.

Anyone know much about sim cards, I may have acted in haste. I though I may have been able to get away with buying a pay as you go sim card on the same network as my phone for €22. Then I actually read the page today, where it says unlimited data and texts to any network if I top up €20 a month

Question is what happens if I don't top up....

Would it be cheaper to put up a fence by any chance?

 

[JohnGalway]

Would it be cheaper to put up a fence by any chance?

It wouldn't, in either case it's not allowed being grouse infested SAC commonage.