CF Nitrogen production?

[steveR]

I am buying Futures in clover seed stocks...

Make my fortune, I will....

 

[Sonoftheheir]

So are CF making fert or not?

 

[puppet]

The 3 weeks of government aid are nearly over, gas prices are even higher now than when they last shut down

what happens next ? Looking at the global picture there is going to be massive N shortages fir 2022 crop, that’s going to really hit world wheat stocks

time to buy 2023 futures ? Certainly would not be selling any new crop forward guys !,,


this is all getting a little serious and out of control imo

The good news is that CF is going to produce CO2 again. The bad news is that the customers have agreed to pay a price, not the taxpayer. Price of CO2 gone from £200 to £1000 if that gives a guide to fertiliser prices.
My slurry store will need an armed guard next year

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Only if you can spread all your slurry in the spring?!

hang on, you’re in Scotland? So that rule doesn’t apply?

 

[Bald Rick]

So are CF making fert or not?

Yes but only at Billingham... or in other words, half potential capacity of their plants

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Yes but only at Billingham... or in other words, half potential capacity of their plants

Ah! But fert now is the by product?

 

[Bald Rick]

Ah! But fert now is the by product?

Bit like straw to a livestock farmer then ... still chuffin’ expensive

 

[Billboy1]

if a lot have swapped to beans because of high fert price it might be a good idea to fix bean price to wheat on a contract at 35 above wheat ?

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Coming with an armed outrider yet?

Pleased I’m not paying for it, that’s 4 loads in the shed now and 1 load of N&S

 

[David.]

if a lot have swapped to beans because of high fert price it might be a good idea to fix bean price to wheat on a contract at 35 above wheat ?

Can you do so, and I would only dare contract produce of acres anyway..

 

[puppet]

Only if you can spread all your slurry in the spring?!

hang on, you’re in Scotland? So that rule doesn’t apply?

Was spreading some today before all are under NVZ

 

[Courier]

I am buying Futures in clover seed stocks...

Make my fortune, I will....

Tale goes how a distant relative put his whole farm down to clover for seed in the late 40’s - paid for the farm in one harvest

 

[Lincsman]

The 3 weeks of government aid are nearly over, gas prices are even higher now than when they last shut down

what happens next ? Looking at the global picture there is going to be massive N shortages fir 2022 crop, that’s going to really hit world wheat stocks

time to buy 2023 futures ? Certainly would not be selling any new crop forward guys !,,


this is all getting a little serious and out of control imo

High prices will mean higher production... and lower prices... the nitrogen thing wont have as much effect as a UK farmer might imagine, many acres are sown with the hope of 1 Tonne/Ac with very little inputs.. some places on the planet a farmer will think i will just do another days drilling and bingo, another 1000 acres.

 

[Courier]

The 3 weeks of government aid are nearly over, gas prices are even higher now than when they last shut down

what happens next ? Looking at the global picture there is going to be massive N shortages fir 2022 crop, that’s going to really hit world wheat stocks

time to buy 2023 futures ? Certainly would not be selling any new crop forward guys !,,


this is all getting a little serious and out of control imo

Apparently CO2 does have a value, and fertiliser may become the byproduct and pigs might fly.

 

[Green oak]

Apparently CO2 does have a value, and fertiliser may become the byproduct and pigs might fly.

Don’t you mean die.

 

[pellow]

Anyone know if the N + s is made at Ince or Billingham? Or both

 

[Nowthenblue]

Anyone know if the N + s is made at Ince or Billingham? Or both

Billingham only makes Nitram, and any product currently being made is purely to deliver outstanding orders. The NS & NPK compounds are made at Ince for which CF have said yesterday .................... ' CF Industries’ Ince Complex in Chester, UK, will remain offline. The Company does not have an estimate for when production will resume at the facility'

 

[Exfarmer]

Tale goes how a distant relative put his whole farm down to clover for seed in the late 40’s - paid for the farm in one harvest

Clover seed was a crop that paid handsomely every few years, a bit like potatoes and onions

 

[Fish]

High prices will mean higher production... and lower prices... the nitrogen thing wont have as much effect as a UK farmer might imagine, many acres are sown with the hope of 1 Tonne/Ac with very little inputs.. some places on the planet a farmer will think i will just do another days drilling and bingo, another 1000 acres.

Yes, low input, but not no input, those big air carts ain’t just full of seed, they hold phos and urea. Every farmer around the world will be doing the same calculations as you and I and many will be reaching the same conclusion.
These fertiliser prices could affect every single crop grown to a lesser or greater degree, from wheat to corn, from sunflower to rice.
Throw in a weather event and we’re off to the races.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

If you are looking for a reason to buy less nitrogen, look up Dr Christine Jones to find out what excess fert is doing to your soils and the environment.