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dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
Only rubbish here is your opinion..

It's a fact that regular petrol produces vastly larger amounts of noxious and harmful fumes than alkylate does. Maybe you are one of those who doesn't get a headache and/or irritated eyes from being around a 2 stroke engine running regular petrol but that doesn't mean the fumes are not affecting you.

Add the fact that alkylate is pure petrol which means really long shelf life and never any problems with fuel gunking up and there really is no reason for anyone not to spend the extra 20% or so for alkylate!
i can see the case for aspen, but tbh if you use a good fully synthetic 2 stroke and super unleaded it doesent give any problems. plenty of my stuff has been left for over 12 mths at a time and no issues.
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
hence why i asked if anyone removes the biofuel from petrol
im very tempted to try it, you just add water, (the water emulsifies with the bio) then shake it, let it settle, then pour the pure petrol off of the top. i will try it if i ever cant get super unleaded.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
That's the Stihl equivalent of a Husqvarna 365

Now you want a MS170 for hedging/small stuff
yes them 170's are useful, 2 different specs iirc ,used to keep one aboput havnt had one for a year or to tho , used to be able to pick one up at MVF for just over 100 pound on a special discount if you waited for that oportunity, handy to have around .

For laying ive not used a hook or axe for donkeys years, just small saw , i find a tophandle that i have ideal for it ,as you cvan do the rive carefully then push over the top with your other hand as you should , which you cant do with a 2 handed saw, then just trim tidy as you wouldve years ago with a hand saw.
A modern Cordless tophandle would be perfect for the job i guess, ...as its short use stop start type of work , ....
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
not saying they are bad, but spend an hour on 560xp, then spend an hour on a milwaukee battery saw, then look at the difference in the pile of logs from each. there is no battery saw even half as fast.
If you are doing logs then yes but it's not always about simply chopping up logs.
Battery saws are much more convenient for pruning jobs where you only actually need the saw sporadically. I bet they are great for hedgelaying too.
Never failed to start my battery saw ever, can't say the same for my 550.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
yes them 170's are useful, 2 different specs iirc ,used to keep one aboput havnt had one for a year or to tho , used to be able to pick one up at MVF for just over 100 pound on a special discount if you waited for that oportunity, handy to have around .

For laying ive not used a hook or axe for donkeys years, just small saw , i find a tophandle that i have ideal for it ,as you cvan do the rive carefully then push over the top with your other hand as you should , which you cant do with a 2 handed saw, then just trim tidy as you wouldve years ago with a hand saw.
A modern Cordless tophandle would be perfect for the job i guess, ...as its short use stop start type of work , ....
shhh...don't tell em about tophandles.
The concept of being able to roll a fag/adjust pipe/use phone/pick nose whilst chainsawing.....argh.
Some things are best left hidden
 

john432

Member
Location
Carmarthenshire
I use synthetic or semi synthetic two stroke bought cheap from Midlands Lubricants. Mix at 40:1 normal petrol. My main used saw is an Autotune Jonsered clone of a Husquvarna 550. Main work is cutting up firewood, it's so light powerful and fast.
One saw that really impressed me was a Dolmar / Makita 7900. According to the specs,the base unit weighs 6.3 kg and outputs 6.3 hp, only slightly less than power than my Husquvarna 395. But so much lighter. Regret selling the Dolmar, bought as a none runner, but the build quality of the Husquvarna is superior.
 

Frankzy

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Location
Jamtland, Sweden
i can see the case for aspen, but tbh if you use a good fully synthetic 2 stroke and super unleaded it doesent give any problems. plenty of my stuff has been left for over 12 mths at a time and no issues.

Yes of course premium is better than bio blended normal stuff but shelf life is just a small bonus you get besides the real advantages of using alkylate petrol so it's not like premium is a great alternative either.

And it's not about the oil, it's the petrol itself that produces the noxious and harmful fumes and that's the same whether you use normal E10 petrol or premium. Alkylate is the only petrol that doesn't.

hence why i asked if anyone removes the biofuel from petrol
See above.
 
I only use premium (Shell V power) petrol in my garden equipment, I am reliably informed it does have an ethanol content and no you can't just drain it off as the resultant fuel will not have the original octane rating. The ethanol is in there partly for this reason.

Use high quality 2 stroke oil and it should be fine. I think Stihl's fully synthetic 2 stroke oil contains additives which protect the components of machines so you can leave them with fuel in?

I must confess that I have run or drained both my strimmer and chainsaw of fuel before putting them away for the winter. The leaf blower does have some fuel in but I haven't finished with that quite yet.

I don't keep much ready mixed fuel about and I don't think I even have much straight petrol in the can now but I can't see that keeping petrol in a sealed plastic container in the cool can really hurt. Will be topped off with fresh fuel anyway before I go putting any more in a machine.

Aspen fuels do not suit all equipment- check the manual because some machines won't run properly for with it as the carb isn't set for alkylate fuels.
 

nails

Member
Location
East Dorset
husky 365 weapon of choice here, on 18" bar...pretty bomb proof
Yes 365 is a good saw , basically a de tuned 372 which will run on a 28 inch bar . I have a 365 on a 28 inch bar and it will not bog down , but it has been tweeked. Not keen on short bars as i would sooner stand up and cut .
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
One saw that really impressed me was a Dolmar / Makita 7900. According to the specs,the base
got one of them , good no frills big capacity nice engine.

on a 20inch bar there iirc.
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that was an easy to cut piece of birch.
hes first job when new was a dry windblown Oak, with an up to about 4ft stock.
sectioned all that one no problem up steadily/ thoughtfully but with a 28inch bar which i bought with him as well.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
got one of them , good no frills big capacity nice engine.

on a 20inch bar there iirc.View attachment 1001668

that was an easy to cut piece of birch.
hes first job when new was a dry windblown Oak, with an up to about 4ft stock.
sectioned all that one no problem up steadily/ thoughtfully but with a 28inch bar which i bought with him as well.
We used them for a while - or at least agreed to try them after Doug Bennet kept on at me....and then it was dolmars that turned up.:unsure:
I found them a bit clunky and unergonomic -if that's a word.

Never really took to em....back to husky soon enough.
 

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