Cheap drill system for 200 acres

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Simpleton question alert:-
What are the main differences between a tine drill (kv ts, krm sola, megent) and a tined machine like a Horsch 3co and claydon, as @Clive suggested?
What are you getting on one variety that your not on another?

Claydon is a strip till machine. Not suitable to follow a plough unless well consolidated and it's overkill. 140hp will struggle with 3m. Google it or come and look at mine. The Kuhn/KRM/KV tine drills are light weight mounted machines and 140 hp will pull a 6m with ease. A Horsch CO/Sprinter will have integrated packers and are usually trailed. These won't be quite so good in the wet but will do a bity more cultivation depending on the setup.
 

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Claydon is a strip till machine. Not suitable to follow a plough unless well consolidated and it's overkill. 140hp will struggle with 3m. Google it or come and look at mine. The Kuhn/KRM/KV tine drills are light weight mounted machines and 140 hp will pull a 6m with ease. A Horsch CO/Sprinter will have integrated packers and are usually trailed. These won't be quite so good in the wet but will do a bity more cultivation depending on the setup.
Thanks for the reply. I didn't see the alert.

Did have a Google. The SR are too heavy for our tractors and the (lighter?) hybrids are £££
Haven't managed to see a co3 for sale at all. The sprinter is the same thing?

I think a 6 metre tine drill might pull ok but I think we wont have enough weight on the tractor for balance. Being on 18m makes this a bit of a sod.

Can 4.8m be reduced to 4.5??
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Thanks for the reply. I didn't see the alert.

Did have a Google. The SR are too heavy for our tractors and the (lighter?) hybrids are £££
Haven't managed to see a co3 for sale at all. The sprinter is the same thing?

I think a 6 metre tine drill might pull ok but I think we wont have enough weight on the tractor for balance. Being on 18m makes this a bit of a sod.

Can 4.8m be reduced to 4.5??
Go to 20m by extending sprayer and use 4m tine drill?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Thanks for the reply. I didn't see the alert.

Did have a Google. The SR are too heavy for our tractors and the (lighter?) hybrids are £££
Haven't managed to see a co3 for sale at all. The sprinter is the same thing?

I think a 6 metre tine drill might pull ok but I think we wont have enough weight on the tractor for balance. Being on 18m makes this a bit of a sod.

Can 4.8m be reduced to 4.5??

Sorry. No experience of the SR but I think it's a simpler version of the Hybrid. There's a few second hand Hybrids about now but the 3-4m ones do hold their value.

The Sprinter is a newer version. 2 springs per leg vs 1 on the CO. I've pulled a 6m mounted
Accord with a 125hp 8340 without extra front weights.

Reducing width by that amount should just involve unbolting a few coulters and shifting the rest around. Be prepared to use a hacksaw on the bout marker arms.
 

Banana Bar

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Been looking for one. A few more KRMs about, some have the cultivation bar in front.

Issue I have is the 18m tramlines. Wont pull a 6m and 4m dont go into 18. Do not fancy following a light bar all spring trying to make tramlines [emoji45]

Plenty of 4.8 m tine seeders for sale, could very easily become a 4.5 metre.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Claydon is a strip till machine. Not suitable to follow a plough unless well consolidated and it's overkill.

@Brisel

Have you ever tried it out of interest?

Or anybody else?

I’ve used it after a deep min till cultivator that didn’t have a good press on the back. The drill wheels sunk into the soft ground and seed depth was very hard to control as we had to carry it on the linkage. I did repeat the process in the autumn but made sure the surface was well consolidated, helped by a couple of inches of rain and 2 weeks between the cultivation and the drill to allow it to settle. 6 narrow wheels supporting the weight of a 6m drill isn’t enough for a loose seedbed.
 

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
I’ve used it after a deep min till cultivator that didn’t have a good press on the back. The drill wheels sunk into the soft ground and seed depth was very hard to control as we had to carry it on the linkage. I did repeat the process in the autumn but made sure the surface was well consolidated, helped by a couple of inches of rain and 2 weeks between the cultivation and the drill to allow it to settle. 6 narrow wheels supporting the weight of a 6m drill isn’t enough for a loose seedbed.
True, half toying about with ploughing some early, rolling with shatterboards, then leaving until drilling with the Claydon with leading discs. Not something as the norm, more to see if it works! Just wondered what had been tried before.
 

ih1455xl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northampton
Can you use a simba freeflow on cultivated stubble corn and maize? Dose it level the seed bed at all?
I used to drill stubble turnips with mine ok I baler man had done a good job no problems did a lot with it in to flat lifted stubble or just light disced stubble got some videos somewhere
 

Cuthbert

Member
Fantastic machine for levelling drilled straight in to ploughing aswell Was a great transition tool in to no till
We have an accord combi and plough and don’t do a lot so I wondered if it does a good job on ploughing and speed the job up or is it best to subsoil on stuble instead. The only thing is sometimes we are later drilling and can be catchy or wet weather.
 

alomy75

Member
Sorry. No experience of the SR but I think it's a simpler version of the Hybrid. There's a few second hand Hybrids about now but the 3-4m ones do hold their value.

The Sprinter is a newer version. 2 springs per leg vs 1 on the CO. I've pulled a 6m mounted
Accord with a 125hp 8340 without extra front weights.

Reducing width by that amount should just involve unbolting a few coulters and shifting the rest around. Be prepared to use a hacksaw on the bout marker arms.
Have you got your Sprinter’s and CO’s the wrong way round?! 2 little springs on the CO and early Sprinter; one big one on the later Sprinters (multigrip) with loads more downforce; plus better packer bearing setup
 

Foxcover

Member
Have you got your Sprinter’s and CO’s the wrong way round?! 2 little springs on the CO and early Sprinter; one big one on the later Sprinters (multigrip) with loads more downforce; plus better packer bearing setup

so Sprinters are basically a Terrano?
 

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