Cheap European Buildings

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
What is a kit building?..........our experience is that what starts as a kit building soon develops into a bespoke building to suit both short term and long term needs. Also the cost of entry for UK fabricators is pretty low with investment minimal, so basic sheds are very competitive here already.
The cost of carriage from continental Europe would be significant also, so I suspect there is poor margin opportunity in reality.
There is already at least 1 importer supplying kits into UK ( easyhalls.com) and whilst their sheds look fine, with galvanizing as standard my understanding is the delivery period can be slow and take up has been low to date.

I'm afraid its like every purchase.......shop around and choose a supplier who you feel comfortable with and who you can rely on to support you throughout the build and particularly when things don't quite work as anticipated. There are plenty of these manufacturers running good and reliable business's here already so not sure what extra any importer could offer?

I am English but farm in France. Since being here we have built a couple of kit sheds over here one from Gibeaux the other Screb.

http://batiment-agricole.fr/Batiment-kit/
https://screb.com/en/#buildings

We got prices from all over and the french built sheds were much cheaper than UK prices. I take your point about transport, but if you had enough orders how many sheds could you fit on one load? A truck from the middle of France to middle of UK is about £1000. Also I think you are not thinking about the scale of these firms. Screb build a shed an hour and have sold 27000 in total. Their sheds are standard take it or leave it, but not everyone wants a bespoke shed.

How much would a simple 40ft x 80ft x 20ft high tin roof kit shed be in the UK? Here It would be about £6000 to £7000 with galvanised steel. If the UK is now cheaper it would surprise me even with currency changes.
 
I am English but farm in France. Since being here we have built a couple of kit sheds over here one from Gibeaux the other Screb.

http://batiment-agricole.fr/Batiment-kit/
https://screb.com/en/#buildings

We got prices from all over and the french built sheds were much cheaper than UK prices. I take your point about transport, but if you had enough orders how many sheds could you fit on one load? A truck from the middle of France to middle of UK is about £1000. Also I think you are not thinking about the scale of these firms. Screb build a shed an hour and have sold 27000 in total. Their sheds are standard take it or leave it, but not everyone wants a bespoke shed.

How much would a simple 40ft x 80ft x 20ft high tin roof kit shed be in the UK? Here It would be about £6000 to £7000 with galvanised steel. If the UK is now cheaper it would surprise me even with currency changes.

27000 in total when? Over the last 300 years? Days, hours?

Can you tell us the the spec's for a 80x40 please so we can see how they match up.
 

Forever Fendt

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Derbyshire
27000 in total when? Over the last 300 years? Days, hours?

Can you tell us the the spec's for a 80x40 please so we can see how they match up.
had a look myself on the face of it they don't look cheap, they are calling the pitch % not deg i wonder if they are the same ? wish i had paid more attention in french lessons at school now
 

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
27000 in total when? Over the last 300 years? Days, hours?

Can you tell us the the spec's for a 80x40 please so we can see how they match up.

Had a quick look and Screb has their website in English so I have lifted their spec

Shed is 12.93m x 24m (so actually 42 ft x 79 ft)

Book Price is 8345 euros painted 9389 euros galvanized so at 1.16 euros/pound £7193 and £8093. I would expect 10 % discount which I got off them when I bought. Phone them for a quote and they will phone you back and haggle. Some other firms look a bit cheaper. One offers the same shed (with 220 mm steel and plain tin no anti condensation) for 214 euros a month for 3 years which is 7704 euros.

There is info on their site but just copied this

  • Painted or hot-dip galvanized steel frame.
  • CE certified 240 mm IPE colums. CE certified 200 mm IPE rafters.
  • Top-quality boltable gutters with external connections plates.
    Warranted 10 years against corrosion. For an easy assembly without any welding!
  • Hot-dip galvanized C-shaped purlin with 25+20 mm reinforcing folds.
    Purlins spacing: 2 m.
  • Hot-dip galvanized anti-sag ties with C strut braces.
  • Top-quality 0.63 mm steel roof panels with 25 µ polyester coating,
    with the patented ATG® anti-condensation fleece.
  • Zinc-aluminum self-tapping screws to fix the roof panels warranted 20 years.
  • Double bolted 45 x 45 mm wind-braces.
  • Zinc plated bolts and nuts.
  • J-Type anchors bolts.
  • 10-year warranty - Generali no. AM 958200
By the way two things to point out firstly, I am farm building student's father and second, I am just a farmer with no connection to any shed builder, I am not trying to sell sheds! This is just a thesis project on why there are massive shed builders in europe and lots of small operators in the UK.
 

Forever Fendt

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Location
Derbyshire
Just looking at the spec i would be doubtful for a building warrant for scotland on what i can see on the web site and the mention of ce certified steel i am not sure the building would meet our loadings i did not spot anything pertaining to en1090 @gusbs5502 may be able to clarify this but i would not get to excited just yet with those spacings on the roof of 2m and 0.63mm sheet i would question the snow load designs
 

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
Just looking at the spec i would be doubtful for a building warrant for scotland on what i can see on the web site and the mention of ce certified steel i am not sure the building would meet our loadings i did not spot anything pertaining to en1090 @gusbs5502 may be able to clarify this but i would not get to excited just yet with those spacings on the roof of 2m and 0.63mm sheet i would question the snow load designs

When I got my actual quote from them they needed my postcode and height above sealevel as the rules in france require differing spec depending on snow risk. I seem to remember there were three levels of risk Low Medium and High. I would imagine they use the low risk to quote!
 
Just looking at the spec i would be doubtful for a building warrant for scotland on what i can see on the web site and the mention of ce certified steel i am not sure the building would meet our loadings i did not spot anything pertaining to en1090 @gusbs5502 may be able to clarify this but i would not get to excited just yet with those spacings on the roof of 2m and 0.63mm sheet i would question the snow load designs

My thoughts exactly.

Keep the French stuff in France and we'll build our own sheds, we've managed easily enough for years.

We've voted out of the EU so let's keep tinfoil buildings where they belong
 

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
My thoughts exactly.

Keep the French stuff in France and we'll build our own sheds, we've managed easily enough for years.

We've voted out of the EU so let's keep tinfoil buildings where they belong

Is everything you own/use made in the UK? If so congratulations. However the attitude that people should buy my products because they are british will only get you so far. If your specs are different say so, if your price is cheaper say so. Do you honestly think that brexit will stop sheds (and BMWs) coming in?
 
Is everything you own/use made in the UK? If so congratulations. However the attitude that people should buy my products because they are british will only get you so far. If your specs are different say so, if your price is cheaper say so. Do you honestly think that brexit will stop sheds (and BMWs) coming in?

Nope it isn't, but the sheds I sell directly support my local economy, buying them from France wouldn't.

I could make an 80x40 for that money. Would probably fall down the first time it snowed but it can be done.

What happens when they forget to weld some cleats on? Are they going to send a bloke out in a van to weld them on?

Something's can be inported, like my Swedish car, or Turkish van, Italian cherry picker, American digger but things that are custom made need to be made where you can talk to the mush that's making it, in my opinion :)
 

Forever Fendt

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Derbyshire
When I got my actual quote from them they needed my postcode and height above sealevel as the rules in france require differing spec depending on snow risk. I seem to remember there were three levels of risk Low Medium and High. I would imagine they use the low risk to quote!
i would have thought the postcode would be for the delivery charge
 

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