Cheltenham

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by st piran, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. CharcoalWally

    CharcoalWally Member

    Location:
    West of Scotland
    All hail King Altior!

    Did not expect him to go tearing off after the leader with the rest so far behind, but it just proved in the end that he can win any way he runs. Turning down the hill it looked ominous as the chasing pack closed onto his heels, and between the last two fences I actually felt that something must have been wrong with him as a hugely inferior rival in Sceau Royal went past him.

    I needn't have worried. He was only messing with us. As soon as de Boinville asked him to go, he switched on the afterburners that only great horses have, and within a few strides, he'd put a breathtaking amount of ground between himself and other good horses.

    How good is he? I still don't feel he's ever put in a Sprinter Sacre performance. I don't believe he's in his illustrious former stablemates league, but not many horses are.

    I just enjoy him for himself.
     
  2. yellowbelly

    yellowbelly Member

    Location:
    N.Lincs
    Had my heart in my mouth when he made a 'horlicks' of the water jump :eek:

    He didn't enjoy the ground and 'missing' the last two fences let the field get close to him but he showed what a class act he is and blew them away from the back of the last to the line (y)
     
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  3. Bomber_Harris

    Bomber_Harris Member

    Location:
    London
    copy of post I made in the Brexit forum

    - Bomber

    Updated political betting odds courtesy of my pal Ben the Kipper

    No deal exit or May's Deal passed by 29/3/19: 7/2
    Art 50 extension: 1/5

    next Gen Election Most Seats
    Con 4/5
    Lab 6/4
    Any other party 10/1
    Lib Dems 100/1

    in other news Ben had a disastrous day at Cheltenham and laid the following lumpy bets

    1.30 Champ £180 -£40k each-way and £25k each-way, Champ finished 2nd so place bets landed

    2.10 Delta £90k - £40k , finished 3rd so that was a result for Ben

    3.30 £40k - £100k on the good thing of the day Altior which won although it didn't look likely as they jumped the last, but Altior's class saw him power up the Cheltenham hill

    4.50 total disaster for Ben. Band Of Outlaws smashed off the boards backed down to 7/2 including a monster bet taken by the Mayfair office which Ben won't say for how much but I reckon this one race took over £200k out of Ben's coffers

    but he'll survive :)

    I'll be there today and Friday and more than likely I will end up doing my bollox and helping Ben recover some of those losses

    - Bomber :cool:
     
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  4. CharcoalWally

    CharcoalWally Member

    Location:
    West of Scotland
    OMG, Ben had a very bad day at the office @Bomber_Harris ! :eek: Makes all the "steer clear of the favourites " advice that was doing the rounds online sound a bit hollow now.

    He dodged the Tiger Roll bullet then? That wee horse must be shaping up to be the Red Rum of our time as Ed Chamberlin desperately tries to hype him into housewife choice / equine treasure bracket for the modern era.
     
  5. yellowbelly

    yellowbelly Member

    Location:
    N.Lincs
    Strikes me old Ben the Kipper needs a better odds compiler, he's even got the Tories odds on to win the next general election :eek:

    Does the man pay no attention to form?:p:p

    I just love it when bookmakers 'do their money' :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  6. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    Congratulations to the guy who won the tote
    £182k for £2 isn’t a bad day at the office
     
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  7. CharcoalWally

    CharcoalWally Member

    Location:
    West of Scotland
    Best thing about yesterday was that it was a day of great racing with brilliant finishes.

    Great finish to the opening novice hurdle with two nice horses given great rides in third and fourth. The Coral Cup was a cracker with horse after horse being played later than each other until de Boinville dropped William Henry's nose right on the line with not a second to spare. Cool as a cucumber.

    Topofthegame and Santini battling out the RSA followed by Altior made it a day to remember.
     
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  8. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    Well I won £330 today...happy days :cool:
     
  9. Bobthebuilder

    Bobthebuilder Member

    Location:
    northumberland
    Best day of the 3 so far for me as well I’ve had at least 1 bet on every race over the 3 days and over all I’m £95 up after today so if my theory is right tomorrow should be my best day of the 4
     
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  10. lazy farmer

    lazy farmer Member

    Location:
    som/dor border
    The only problem with spring calving is that I only get to listen to Cheltenham live and then watch the races later.

    I have just watched the Ryanair and I shed many tears never have I been prouder of my sport than today.
    Froden displayed huge courage and Bryonys race was perfection followed by hugely carasmatic but modest post race interviews.

    God I love my sport.
     
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  11. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    There's hell off a lot more to this story than gets printed. She had multiple affairs and put serious pressure on her late husband as used their child as a lever to ripe his heart out before he tragically took his own life but he's not here to put his side of the story across:(
     
  12. CharcoalWally

    CharcoalWally Member

    Location:
    West of Scotland
    I've just seen it, and , by God, what a horse that Frodon is. Never, ever, have I seen a horse so determined, so willing, and so chockful of sheer will to win. Gigginstown ran a spoiler in Sub Leiutenant to set the race up for the other two, but when they all sat on his quarters to try and crowd him out coming down the hill, Frodon spat them out with contempt and took off with Aso.

    Yes, he was headed over the last, but with this little horse, it's never over 'til it's over . He doesn't know when he's finished. He doesn't know how to give in.

    And what of his remarkable jockey? There's not much left to be said about Bryony Frost other than the sheer luminous radiance her personality brings to the sport has blasted through many sitting rooms the length and breadth of the land like a sundrenched tornado. Smiling, happy, modest , unaffected and totally in love with the horses. As Francesca Cumani reflected , asked about herself, she deflects everything to the horse. All credit goes to the four legged friends, never herself.

    Yes @lazy farmer , I found it very moving too .I think we've just witnessed a very special Festival moment that will go down in the annals along with the Arkles , Desert Orchids and 70's two Mile hurdlers battles in it's own way.
     
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  13. Bomber_Harris

    Bomber_Harris Member

    Location:
    London
    I heard that rumour as well, apparently she was having an affair with a point to point jockey and wasn't even hiding it and so he turned a shotgun on himself

    it's a tragic tale all round and I don't blame her for him doing what he did, he obviously had mental health issues imo

    - Bomber

    p.s. betting report on my good friend Ben the Kipper to follow. As you can probably imagine it was grim. Utterly grim. But not for yours truly :D I had one of my best punting days ever :D:D no doubt I'll probably give it all back tomorrow and then some :rolleyes:
     
  14. CharcoalWally

    CharcoalWally Member

    Location:
    West of Scotland
    And on it goes. Paisley Park . Gets miles behind, never looks like he's going that well, crashes through the last like it doesn't matter, and then saunters up the hill with his ears pricked leaving the best staying hurdlers either side of the Irish Sea looking like a bunch of selling platers.

    He's special. Really, really special.

    And his owner. A down to earth, relateable guy that we can all get behind.

    What a day this has been.
     
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  15. Bomber_Harris

    Bomber_Harris Member

    Location:
    London
    So my mate Ben the Kipper is probably laying down on the bed in his hotel room and just staring up at the light bulb and wondering if there is any way back from the abyss. It was carnage. Absolute carnage :wtf:

    And yet, it could have been so much worse as he dodged a few bullets. He was hoping Thursday would be the start of the comeback but nope, he knew his fate was sealed and that it was going to be another losing day and he knew this after the first race!

    1.30: Defi Du Seuil £180k - £60k then another £30k - £10k just before the off.
    A double whammy! £210k down on the first race already to add to yesterday's carnage.

    2.10 Ben dodged a bullet on Sire Du Berlais, it was still a bad result but he didn't take any lumpy bets on it. Did lay a £80k - £5k on Notwhatiam but still lost on the race and so the beatings continued

    2.50 Frodon was another shocking result for Ben, no individual lumpy bets but the world and his wife and also the Bomber were on everyone's favourite female jock Bryony Frost. And so the beatings continued

    3.30 The London office laid plenty of lumpy bets on Paisley Park at 2/1 all the way down to 11/8 in the morning. On course it was all Faugheen, although no lumpy individual bets, but again the world and his wife appeared to favour Faugheen over Paisley Park. Ben really needed to get them both beat to gain back some ground,but no such luck. The jolly winning meant the Mayfair office dropped just over £100k on the race but some of that was recouped on course laying Faugheen but still a massive loss on the race. And so the beatings continued

    4.50 Finally some respite for Ben as Epatante and Posh Trish were both beaten out of sight. Surely the beatings were over and it was safe for Ben to emerge from the cellar and take on the punters again who were flush with his cash including yours truly :D

    5.30 No monster bets but plenty of £1k bets at 9/2 and 4/1 on the winner Any Second Now and so just when Ben thought it was safe to emerge from the cellar he had to run for cover again as the beatings continued. The Bomber had also backed the JP winner :D

    With one day of Cheltenham to go Ben must be down something in the region of half a million. At this rate he might have to give up that plush office of his in Mayfair!

    - Bomber :cool:
     
  16. yellowbelly

    yellowbelly Member

    Location:
    N.Lincs
    We could wait a long time to see another day to compare to it.

    Female jockeys have come of age now - it's probably time we started just calling them jockeys.
    Lasses have always competed on equal terms eventing and show jumping and, IMHO, we're now at the stage where you can no longer tell which they are when a NH field gallops past.

    We've come a long way from Charlotte Brew, through Gee Armitage, Katie Walsh and Nina Carberry.
    Horses really do run for these girls and, being smaller than the lads they're not having to do a lot of wasting to do 10 stone. They're certainly having a good week at Cheltenham.
     
  17. lazy farmer

    lazy farmer Member

    Location:
    som/dor border
    I have to look back to Kauto stars remarkable last win at Haydock in the Betfair chase for a similarly glorious moment.
     
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  18. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
    Luck of the Irish maybe today again?
     
  19. cowgirl95

    cowgirl95 Member

    tragic for sir eric but why is nobody asking the question is the leg he broke the same one that he was lame on last week ??
     
  20. cowgirl95

    cowgirl95 Member

    hopefully we will find out how good he is when he meets Cyrname at sandown in April
     
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